kennethamy;22523 wrote: nameless wrote:
'Logic' (all rational discourse) is too flawed a tool to be of much use in the more 'metaphysical realms' of exploration and existence.
What tool do you use, then?
Were I to wish to explore fire and heat, I might first hear, intellectually, what other explorers have to say on the matter. But if I have never experiencedfire/heat, all that would now be is some vague intellectually based concepts. Nothing like an actual experience will provide. Now, I might get plenty of burns in my experiental explorations. No longer is the concept/understanding vague and intellectual, but a direct experience
, a 'direct knowing'.
The language that we use, in itself is an artifact of 'logic' and ordered rational concepts, with linear and dualistic 'flow'.
Beyond 'dualism', words are outright 'lies/unreal' in and of themselves. Poetry, allusion, metaphor, mythology, symbols
are the best that we can do to even point toward the place where even thought (dualism) must cease, to 'proceed'.
It cannot be communicated in words. There can be 'empathic' communication. That is a 'tool of communication' that is not limited by language or Perspective. Missunderstanding is impossible. It is a 'direct experience'
on the other hand, given the correct time and place, even the words "Can I get more cheese on those nachos?" can have great meaning and pragmatic results.
A very 'locally' indexed tool, language.
Other means of 'communication' (finger over the flame) for other 'localities'.