Hi Krumple,
I know the values of a,b+c. I have encountered this before.
All you are saying is, for instance > miles and feet = measurements <> measurements = miles and feet.
There's nothing hidden from the obvious.
We can end this right now and I can furnish you with the values of a, b+c, if you want, just ask, but say "please".

You are applying the concepts incorrectly and that is why you failed.

c in my argument is not assumed. But you want to assume and give c a value. You can't do that and make the statement true. The only thing the statement says is that c is equal to the value of the sum of a plus b. If you read it any other way then you are breaking the rules of math.

Why do you believe that c = (a+b) is different from (a+b)=c ?
What rules of math are you talking about?

(x=y iff y=x, for all x and all y) is a theorem.

I'm not in conflict with that. I was in conflict with him stating that C could be assumed which it can't or in most cases you shouldn't assume the value of c otherwise you are likely to make the statement false.

What is false, or true, about 3=(a+b) ?

You are applying the concepts incorrectly and that is why you failed.

c in my argument is not assumed. But you want to assume and give c a value. You can't do that and make the statement true. The only thing the statement says is that c is equal to the value of the sum of a plus b. If you read it any other way then you are breaking the rules of math.

But you said "each of you."

You may not care either way, but for the record, I don't dislike you.

May your day be as pleasant as mine.

Hi Krumple,
c has a value, it = a+b
Have a great day.
Mark...

Wrong. (a+b) is not a value at all.
(a+b) is a value if and only if a and b are specified.
Then and only then can we calculate the value of c.

Hi Owen,
I was asked the question - "Does a+b=c" I answered "yes" to this because, in my eyes, a+b=c. I am not wrong, I am right. Nobody knows the formula I used to reach my conclusion, so you can't say I am wrong.
I am not saying that you are wrong either, because I don't know what formula you used to reach your conclusion. Why does everyone instinctively assume this to be a mathematical question? Why do you think the thread opener (Jack) is merely sitting back and letting us get on with it? I know. Am I wrong on this matter too?

Anyway, have a great day, Owen. And thank you.
Mark...

a + b = c is an equation, and it's an equation with variables, and though we know what the variables are (a, b, and c), we do not know the value of those variables. Yes, we can manipulate the variables and arrive at equivalent equations, but doing so doesn't tell us the value of the variables. In fact, they may not even have a value at all. For example, if we haven't been given the data, or if we haven't collected the data, then the value of the variables are unknown to us.

By the way, "I don't like you" is ambiguous between ~L and L~, so if you say I don't like you, it's not at all clear what you mean. I just wanted to make it clear that the latter wasn't true. That's not to say the first is, of course.

May you bring blessings to those that cross your path,



PS. Why do you put an ellipses after signing your posts?

Hi Mark,

Hi Owen,
I was asked the question - "Does a+b=c" I answered "yes" to this because, in my eyes, a+b=c. I am not wrong, I am right. Nobody knows the formula I used to reach my conclusion, so you can't say I am wrong.
I am not saying that you are wrong either, because I don't know what formula you used to reach your conclusion. Why does everyone instinctively assume this to be a mathematical question?

Why do you think the thread opener (Jack) is merely sitting back and letting us get on with it? I know. Am I wrong on this matter too?

Clearly, "Does (a+b)=c ?" is not a sensible question, until and unless we know what (a,b,c) refer to. It's like saying: x>y, is true. ???

If you believe that (a+b)=c is true, how about (a+b)=d, is that true too???

We assume that (a+b_=c) is a mathematical question, because of the + and =. What things, other than numbers, could (a, b, c) be?

"Why do you think the thread opener (Jack) is merely sitting back and letting us get on with it? I know. Am I wrong on this matter too?"

What is it that you claim to know here?
I have not yet learned to read minds, have you?

Both you and Jack fail to understand the function of variables and constants in logic or mathematics.

How are you interpreting the question?

Hi Huxley,
By convention? This is not a conventional question.

What do you mean exactly?
Journey well sir.
Mark...

A B & C simply cancel out eachother. This equation has no absolute relevence to itself. Lets face it characters added to equal another character makes no sense. The physical form of a and b does not form c?? a+b = ab. Simple?