Is Conception pseudo- Fractal?

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Reply Wed 3 Mar, 2010 09:54 pm
What are fractals when we are not talking about pictures but only pure number?

Exponents. 3 to the power of 3. Exponents can be conceived as expanding fractals, as each exponent is also divisible by its root.

I think our intellects are always structured, in that they are a system of concepts. And concepts do not exist except as part of a system. It seems to me that human experience will tend toward a master concept, one that designates the rest. But this is one more concept, conscious as needed, in a tangle that expands itself in time.

Rational man is a concept system?
 
ughaibu
 
Reply Wed 3 Mar, 2010 10:12 pm
@Reconstructo,
Reconstructo;135739 wrote:
What are fractals when we are not talking about pictures but only pure number?

Exponents. 3 to the power of 3. Exponents can be conceived as expanding fractals, as each exponent is also divisible by its root.
This is a stretch. A better example is phi, a number that is in itself fractal.
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Wed 3 Mar, 2010 10:45 pm
@ughaibu,
ughaibu;135746 wrote:
This is a stretch. A better example is phi, a number that is in itself fractal.


I think that 3 to the Third is a great fractal. I'm looking for utter simplicity n this little metaphysical poem. 81.

Practical implicit ontologies, and the poetry of pure(?) reason. Pragmatism and an indulgently integrated system....Survival on one side, truth and beauty on the other... Living in the middle, as they are really separate in a concept-system.
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2010 01:15 am
@Reconstructo,
I'm beginning to see more and more how brilliant the TLP is. It can be read in different ways as the bible can be read in different ways. It's a thin and suggestive style. Attacking/seeking the transcendental, and the structure of thought itself.
Quote:

2.03 In a state of affairs objects fit into one another like the links
of a chain.
2.031 In a state of affairs objects stand in a determinate relation to
one another.
2.032 The determinate way in which objects are connected in a state of
affairs is the structure of the state of affairs.
Quote:

2.12 A picture is a model of reality.
There's always a master concept, an ontological hierarchy. In this case: "reality."
Quote:

2.1511 That is how a picture is attached to reality; it reaches right
out to it.
Reality is the sensual-emotional-thought that describes itself?
Quote:


2.181 A picture whose pictorial form is logical form is called a logical
picture.


2.182 Every picture is at the same time a logical one. (On the other
hand, not every picture is, for example, a spatial one.)
Wittgenstein is here making pictures of the making of pictures.

Who is the real painter, and what is it he is painting? And what isn't a logical picture, if the sense-data is logically interpreted? The distinction is practical and social. But not essential.
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2010 09:36 pm
@Reconstructo,
We obviously only think in concepts. We try think of what it is that we are. We think of a soul, or a consciousness, or a transcendental unity of perceptional....but all of these are concepts....

Perhaps the closest we can get is to assume a transcendental faculty that assembles concepts. And this would be the root transcendental, beyond mind, matter, self, causality, any of it. And from here all concepts come. So this faculty is a deduction of our true nature, which can only be conceived, though the conception refers to something merely inferred.....
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2010 03:49 pm
@Reconstructo,
If we think of our system of concepts as an inverted triangle, then this pyramid stands on the most general and inclusive concepts within this system. For instance, Being or Consciousness or Everything. As we go from here, the inverted triangle widens, including all the details of our conceptual experience. The concept of animal widens into the concepts of particular animals, and these animal concepts widen into details about the animals, and so on. As the triangle widens, words refer more and more to sensual details, or qualia. But at the sharp bottom of this inverted triangle the real problem lies. Our most basic concepts are already essences. We must infer the source of essence.
 
 

 
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