What does it mean to say that X is real, or not real?

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hue-man
 
Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 08:56 pm
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;101891 wrote:
But whether they are reducible to mental event is the question. (And how are mental event in space, anyway?) Isn't physicalism a kind of materialism? Can physicalism be true, and materialism be false? And what makes you think that abstract objects are "in the mind"? If numbers are classes, which seems to be true, classes are not in the mind. So numbers are not in the mind.


Mental events are in space-time because the mind is the brain, and the brain is material, and the brain is in space-time. It's not that physicalism is a type of materialism, but materialism is a type of physicalism.

What do you mean when you say that numbers are classes?
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2009 04:41 pm
@hue-man,
hue-man;101928 wrote:
Mental events are in space-time because the mind is the brain, and the brain is material, and the brain is in space-time. It's not that physicalism is a type of materialism, but materialism is a type of physicalism.

Space-time events are in mental time because the brain is an object of consciousness.



Both of our statements are partial truths. I think the mind matter dichotomy is our creation in the first place. Is it not like a Moebius strip?
Is the real composed of the overlapping imaginary (objectivity = subjectivity)? We divide our consciousness experience into inner and outer, mental and physical.

But this isn't my idea. It goes back at least to Hegel, maybe to Buddha.
 
 

 
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