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Tue 7 Jul, 2009 10:44 am
Any one thinks abstract objects exist. AO is really at center stage in contemporary philosophy. If people do not think AO exist, then they are nominalist. There are arguments for nominalism. The standard example of AO are numbers:
1) 7 is greater than 3.
What is interesting about 1 is that it has the same form as:
2) Kate is taller than John.
The standard reason for why 2 is true is because there are two things in the world( Kate, John), and they have a certain "relation" to one another that "makes" 2 true. The people that believes in AO thinks that we can analyze 1 in the same way that we analyze 2. That there are Abstract objects( 7, 3), and they have the "relation" of "greater than":
1.a) Objects := { 7, 3} // abstract objects
1.b) relation := { N, M..} // relationship between AO
In 1.b, the relations are N-tuples. The notation is N( *, * ) where the place with * stands for Ob.
The "reason" 1 is true is because it corresponds to objects( 1.a), and their relations( N, M..). The objects and relations are also know as primtives.They are concepts left over in explanation, but are themselves unexplained. They are "basic" in the sense that they are part of reality.
Can anyone find ways to reject the existence of objects( AO) and relations by reinterpreting 1 and 2?
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Another example are computer programming codes. Programmers always write codes about objects, and methods( see object orientated programming). Do these programming constructs really exist, or do we invent it when we program. At the end, these things has to work together in a working program.
@vectorcube,
I don't understand your first sentence. When you say 'any one thinks abstract objects exist', do you mean 'everyone'? Do you mean, if you picked 'any one' on the street and said 'do abstract objects exist?' they would say 'yeah, sure'?
And if you do mean 'everyone thinks they exist' do you mean by this that there is general agreement amongst the population at large that 'abstract objects' exist? This would seem problematic, because I would have thought it a pretty sure bet that more than 90% of the population would not only not agree, but would not actually be able to understand the idea even if you explained it to them (although admittedly this is just an out-and-out guess.)
@jeeprs,
jeeprs;77386 wrote:I don't understand your first sentence. When you say 'any one thinks abstract objects exist', do you mean 'everyone'? Do you mean, if you picked 'any one' on the street and said 'do abstract objects exist?' they would say 'yeah, sure'?
And if you do mean 'everyone thinks they exist' do you mean by this that there is general agreement amongst the population at large that 'abstract objects' exist? This would seem problematic, because I would have thought it a pretty sure bet that more than 90% of the population would not only not agree, but would not actually be able to understand the idea even if you explained it to them (although admittedly this is just an out-and-out guess.)
I mean if there exist x, such that Px, where x is people, and P is the predicate "believe in abstract object".
@vectorcube,
Sorry I would like to pursue this line of thought, but I don't understand this mode of expression.