The knowledge is meaningless unless people act on it...Usually when people know they have diabetes and feel their lives threatened, they have more rather than less children... Society should encourage them to have less children, and not treat the ones they have without the promis to not have more...It might be possible to breed it out of the population while keeping their healthy genes alive... But chronic illness saps money for little gain, and knowledge and technology that does not change behavior, and that we must then become addicted to is no blessing....

in the future we may be able to identify genetic options that would cause unreasonable predisposition towards diabetes or that would cause it to occur in all cases

but right now, I think we should only screen for known bad genes that cause disease in every instance or cause strong predisposition towards disease

and, eliminating these genetic options does not lead to other detriments

this requires an understanding of the genes involved

we do have a long list of known bad genes whereby : we understand how the genetic option causes the disease, that not having the option is not detrimental, and that the genetic option will always lead to the disease in question

I see no reason not to screen for these genetic options provided that we can deal with the technological hurdles of the screening process itself

Eugenics has gotten a pretty bad name due to the misinterpretation, misuse and misunderstanding of it. Eugenics, Darwinism and Nietszche's Ubermench have all been called the root of Nazism, or any other "non-moral" group that is active this day and age. But neither of them are primarily bad.

Eugenics in it's own way does not endorse genocide, etnocide, infanticide or other form of killing selected groups of people, like Hitler killed the Jews, and the shootout in Mumbai recently was primary on foreigners. However it is often used in this form by facists, racists and militia or government and thats why eugenics is highly ethical these days.

Eugenics is a highly moral and ethical debate. Who are we to choose who's to live and die for the sake of human advancement. But still I think eugenics should be taken, and considered as serious business.

The risks are high, but the payouts can be even higher. What if by using eugenics we create a new human superrace with IQ's of 189 points and up, immune for the terminal deceases like cancer and as a bonus leaving a smaller carbon footprint on the earth. It would be a great advancement for humans, and not much different from evolution. Humans and superhumans can live side by side, until finaly we have a mix that is better than the averages we have now.

The mindless killing that has been called eugenics to this day was primarily just people feeling better than others. I feel like i'm shifting towards transhumanism.

Though it wouldn't be actively encouraged, wouldn't the knowledge of the positive or negative results of genetic screening affect some peoples perceptions of them? For example, assuming both relationships lead to married families, Timothy could either go out with Samantha or Amy. Samantha has a genetic defect meaning that her child would have a 50% chance of having, say, autism. Amy does not. Would Timothy's choice be affected if he too planned for the relationship to lead to children?

I disagree. Eugenics is intrinsically bad in itself.

All I know is, that if you treat genetic diseases you invariably end up with more of it...It cannot be left to individuals and to scientists... There has to be a social approach to consider all options...I am not saying we are to the point of needing to ration medical care, but in a sense, the rationing we have which is unnecessary, results from an overburden of genetic diseases and life style choice disease, that means a lot of people are denied basic care when they most need it...Again, the need for rationing is a myth; but it is inevitable that when some pandemic attacks us next, it will get through a failed health care system, or actually develop in a medical setting because of insufficient resources...

I disagree. Eugenics is intrinsically bad in itself.

that's where screening comes in

that way any couple can procreate and keep trying until they create an embryo that passes the tests



I disagree the sun is black... you have to support your opinion or else it's worthless



you don't create more genetic diseases by treating them, where did you get that idea?

with genetic screening there is less of a burden on society - this benefits everyone

How can you say this??? Disease is universally thought of as bad, undesireable and evil... Treated, all genetic diseases will become more prevelent in society, meaning that if nothing else changes that sooner or later the cost of medical care will deny treatment for treatable and curable diseases, basic and essential care...Negative eugenics meant to reduce births to diseased people is only common sense... If you gave them treatment with a promise to not breed you would do society a favor...Otherwise, deny them treatment, which creates pain, and resentment... People have a right to their lives..People with diseases do not have a right to breed...

How can you say this??? Disease is universally thought of as bad, undesireable and evil... Treated, all genetic diseases will become more prevelent in society, meaning that if nothing else changes that sooner or later the cost of medical care will deny treatment for treatable and curable diseases, basic and essential care...Negative eugenics meant to reduce births to diseased people is only common sense... If you gave them treatment with a promise to not breed you would do society a favor...Otherwise, deny them treatment, which creates pain, and resentment... People have a right to their lives..People with diseases do not have a right to breed...

I say you have a disease to treat other people as means to your utilitarian end. No one has the right to decide who's to live and who's to die. This not a world for the highly evolved. I'm sorry, you're no better than a machine if you thought like this.