Can faith be measured?

Is it only measurable by how much some one else has not?

Is your spirituality or faith measured by what you do or what you do or don't believe?

How can faith ever be measured?

No really, how can I say I have more faith in you than you in me?

How can something be measured that has no way of disproving you?
How can you prove your faith?
How can you prove some one has less than you?

Is faith only measured by God or spirit and therefore ultimately cannot be proven because you cant prove God or spirit?

Is faith that which proves God? or yourself?

*answer one some or all, better still ask and add your own*

Hi Sun,

I'll answer what I can. hope it helps.

1) No, It is only measured by you, for you cannot exaggerate your own foundation.

2) It is measured by who you are, not what you do.

3) Refer to (1)

4) Mutual reflective-causation. We perceive others EXACTLY as they perceive us. The reasons differ, but the feelings are mutual.

5) Don't understand this one. Can you ask it differently, please?

6) Confront yourself on it.

7) You can't, and other's faith is their concern. Your faith is yours'.

8) Whatever God, belief system, or material ideology you adhere to, adheres to you in like fashion.

9) Neither. It proves the validity of everything, and nothing, and the pieces in between.

I hope your search leads you to you, Sun. For that is the only place where you will find the true knowledge of all things.

Thank you, and dig deep.

Mark...

Any participation always does.


But other can exaggerate you.
Is our faith measured by the conviction of others?

How can you know and believe in your self unless you have first proven it through defeat or conquest?
Okay how do you measure 'who' you are? unless you know through action and consequence of what you are?

I do not know what I am but I do know what I am not.


Surly what is not is more easily exposed that what is?


How can something be mutual that can never be experienced there fore never be proven just taken on 'faith'?

How can I believe you love me unless you know me well enough to show me a measure of love?
You tell me you love me how can I trust this when I myself don't know how to prove my own love for you?
What is love when love is not contained in a factor? word or action?
How can love be only about proving it through actions?

How can you first face yourself if you have not first turned away form another?

But what of giving faith over to be of strength too others?
How can I be strong for you when I don't know how to be strong for me?
How can I prove me to you when you can't prove you to you?

So are there any degrees of nakedness when it come to faith?
Or must it be worn?

So do you agree then that the self is ultimately unprovable and without basis other than partner compatriot possession?
If you cannot be prove your self faith or God (same thing) can you end up only being able to prove another?

It not only leads me to me, but leads me too you as you are the instiller of inquisition and inquest.
I have no idea how to prove just my self to myself.
Just goes to show I have no idea how to prove my faith unless I can be appreciated for it.

No, thank you (we may be here a while)

All my possible love, sometime sun
(Now, how do I prove all my love is possible?)
Take it on faith.
But not necessarily taken by it.

Can faith be measured?

kennethamy; So are you saying faith can be measured by emotion and or feeling and the consequence of the action of it?
How can an action be an emotion?
Could they be separate, sense and sensation?

I mean by strength of conviction. I can tell when I am more strongly convinced about some things than other things.

Can faith be measured?

Is it only measurable by how much some one else has not?

Is your spirituality or faith measured by what you do or what you do or don't believe?

How can faith ever be measured?

No really, how can I say I have more faith in you than you in me?

How can something be measured that has no way of disproving you?
How can you prove your faith?
How can you prove some one has less than you?

Is faith only measured by God or spirit and therefore ultimately cannot be proven because you cant prove God or spirit?

Is faith that which proves God? or yourself?

*answer one some or all, better still ask and add your own*

Faith is like love. Can you measure whether I love you more or you love me more? .

Of course I can many times. But not, of course, all the time. There are many relationships when one party is far more loved than the other party. There are novel and stories about that sort of thing all the time. Not a very good rhetorical question, since it argues for the very opposite you want it to argue for.

What is the metric by which you measure love amounts? Or faith? So if two people love each other, can you measure whether or not the love is equal or unbalaced in one direction or the other? I say no, and that measuring love or faith has no meaning. Like measuring if one cup of water is wetter than another. Love and faith are subjective and therefore not able to be experienced outside of the individual and certainly not measured. You MIGHT be able to speculate that one person loves the other and the love is unrequited, but that is a yes no, true false question, not quantitative, qualitative. Also, I'm not sure that fiction is a good way to try and prove that you can or can't do something.

Hello All,

There is only one measure of faith, in my opinion. - Do you believe, or doubt? If you believe - there is no doubt! I believe in what I believe, and doubt it not at all. Therefore I believe in ME 100%. I know I have no doubt.
As soon as the element of doubt rears its head in the mindset of the faithful, they are no longer faithful. How can someone be 50%, 23%, or 99% faithful? They can't. The word "faithful" itself, derives from "Faith" and "Full" - "Full of Faith", not "nearly full or a bit full", or "Half full". Something that is full is full. Is it not?

Anyway, thank you, and have a truly brilliant everything, always.

Mark...

What is the metric by which you measure love amounts? Or faith? So if two people love each other, can you measure whether or not the love is equal or unbalaced in one direction or the other? I say no, and that measuring love or faith has no meaning. Like measuring if one cup of water is wetter than another. Love and faith are subjective and therefore not able to be experienced outside of the individual and certainly not measured. You MIGHT be able to speculate that one person loves the other and the love is unrequited, but that is a yes no, true false question, not quantitative, qualitative. Also, I'm not sure that fiction is a good way to try and prove that you can or can't do something.

Is faith only measured by God or spirit and therefore ultimately cannot be proven because you cant prove God or spirit?

Well if X and Y love one another, but X sacrifices for Y, but Y does not for X, I would say that is an indication. Wouldn't you. I think that what may lie behind your view is that you think that "love" is not only the name of a feeling, but it is the name of only a feeling. But that is false. "Love" is just as much the name of a kind of behavior and a tendency to behave. And although feelings are not, perhaps, open to public inspection, but behavior is open to public inspection.

No one is saying that you can get it down to a science. But sometimes you can tell whether one party loves the other more. We often have good reason to believe that a relationship is one-sided. And the more mature and self-aware people will usually admit it.

What can we agree upon is the definition of faith?

I would say that it is a possible indicator of the presence of love. But it doesn't say that X loves Y more, just that it is probable that Y does not love X at all, while it is possible that X loves Y.

Replies to a Questioning Gentleman Concerning "Faith"

1. Faith cannot be measured quantitatively, but only by degree. The expressions "I have some faith" or "I have little faith" show faith as a degree that an individual has in somone or something. But even this seems questionable.

2. Faith is seen through ones actions. When one acts in accordance with certain principles e.g., Christian principles, there can be a revealing of one's faith. However, faith must have a source, which comes from the subject. The subject must have faith in order to reveal his/her faith through actions; that faith being in something e.g., that Christ is the Saviour.

3. Depending on the way "faith" is used, we can say that I have more faith than you in this. How we can ascertain this seems questionable: how exactly do I know that you have less faith than me? From the way in which you express it (which is by degree). Regarding this question in religious light, it seems that it is not even right to assert ones faith is greater than anothers (if we are still going on Chrisitianity). Instead we must build up weaker faith's without assenting to the superiority of ours.

4. One can disprove anothers faith by showing the actions that seem contrary to one's professed faith.

5. Youre pressuposing that you cannot prove God and therefore no one can measure faith. Faith and God are not direct corellaries. You can measure faith, but by degree.

6. You do not have to prove yourself. If I am perceiving you there's nothing to prove. Faith does not prove anyone to anyone else, but only a blind commitment to something.

6.1 Perhaps faith is what proves God. Maybe if you walk in your faith while others perceive you to be doing so, they may think to themselves, "Perhaps God does exist." But this seems more like conviction than anything else, albeit it is rather weak in its convicting.

Faith is like love. Can you measure whether I love you more or you love me more? And faith is one of those subjects about which it is impossible to discuss intelligently until it is carefully defined and the definition agreed upon. My having faith that my car will make it to work is a world of difference from my having faith in God.