@wayne,
wayne;157702 wrote:I am beginning to notice a difference between arguing philosophy and engaging in philosophy.
For this purpose I will view philosophy as if standing on a road, from my perspective the road stretches to a vanishing point in the distance.
I want to distinguish between my position on the road and the view down the road.
It seems that quite often we are arguing from our position on the road.
I'll define this as arguing philosophy.
I define engaging in philosophy as attempting to move down the road, extending the vanishing point .
By this view, philosophy is never perfected, yet , always moving down the road.
Do you see the difference I am suggesting.?
Are we more often, arguing "A" philosophy, rather than engaging in philosophy?
If you are interested, use this thread to demonstrate and explore the difference.
Great post. I suggest a balance. Are we seeking answers? Or is the journey itself the destination?
A mortal beings in a world like this, we probably can't help wanting some kind of working solution or general response to the problem/gift of existence. It matters whether we think there is a god, afterlife, universal ethics, etc. It's hard for us to be completely neutral on such matters.
But once one has something worked out along this line, one can play with ideas that
enrich, a multitude of perspectives. It seems to me that all real friendship is based on an ability to open oneself to the perspective of the other. One must put aside one's isms, at least a little bit. But friendship is difficult when we are dealing with nothing but words on a screen. Empathy and affection are what motivates us to bend. And yet here we are strangers who mostly won't even show our faces to one another..and perhaps with good reason..perhaps faces betray too much. It's easier to drag out real or imagined credentials. It's easier to talk sh*t.
My ideal forum is a place where enthusiasts gather to share their enthusiasm first, and arguments later. Philosophy is a specialty interest. It's nice to find others who read the books one loves. It's nice to talk about grand issues. I used to wonder why this forum was not more populated. I see now that it's no fault of this particular forum but a fault of internet forums in general. Live conversation is balanced by empathy, affection, the
living presence of the other...and even the possibility of getting kicked in the stomach for a malicious statement....:flowers: