@kennethamy,
kennethamy;108485 wrote:Why do you suppose there is one?
Realization is a funny thing you seldom achieve it without an answer.
Why do I suppose that there is an ultimate question with man?
A harder question to answer than on first inspection, even though we ask to answer, even though for us 'to be' is to ask th elusive question.
Suppose; 1 to consider likely or probable, to regard as certain or probable 2 to treat (a possibility) as as fact for the purposes of forming an argument or plan. 3 said of a theory, to require (a factor or assumption) to be true in order to be itself valid, Latin 'supponere', to substitute.
Ultimate;last or final 2 most important, greatest possible 3 fundamental basis 4 best, most advanced From Latin 'ultimus' last.
Question; 2 a doubtor, query 3 an uncertaintly 4 a problem or difficulty 5 a problem set for discussion or solution 6 an investigation or search for information 8 an issueon which something is dependent.
Man; 2 human beings as a whole, the human race.
Not knowing makes us, makes being, difficult.
What is uncertainty but knowing something/anything is missing, knowing we dont know something?
We need to know to make ourselfs valid. STRONG.
We try to consider/prove something we dont already know/regard as certain, and the ultimate would be the final or first thing we will ever need to answer, ourselves, but in order to know the something most fundamental (the we), we need to know what the uncertainty or doubt that needs to be found out and solved is. we need to know the what.
Trust is the issue.
Trust by knowing we are asking and getting the full explanation truth.
Do we need to ask for truth in order to know it?
We may be living the answer, we may already know it but dont know we know it, but unless we know there/where the issue is we cant ever truthfuly and fully know and trust ourselves, know truth, know importance.
We must ask in order to know what we dont have, even if we have what we know we are looking for, at least we have the search.
Can we have it (being, anything)if we dont know what it (being, anything) is?
To be human is to not know, to have doubt, we are trying to become more than human by broadening our understandings our horizons. By becoming.
And we are trying to be God somehow, to live happily ever eternity and we cant do this unless we know how, who, what, where, when, was, will, why.
I dont feel i have lived up to answering what you asked because i feel i am missing a point you are trying to make, but will continue at least now asking myself, until i find solution, a solution that I would gladly share if I am ever to find it out. This is what questions do, they ask the asker to ask, to find truth in of themselves so they unbderstand/recognise the truth when it comes or is found. Realsiation, awake, aware. Ready willing and able.
Question formulation of what needs to be known.
Needs to be.
And there is always more to know, (or as i may be hinting that it is the simplest thing not known to all man) or in this case the one thing that always precedes, concludes all reason. Reasons for knowing, asking, answering.
The one thing, the one question that at leasts asks and can answer everything/anything, world, self, God.
Rest forever. Peace, fulfillment (though all is of God, it is not necessarly with God).
We wont need to doubt anymore, we will, or i will be God for lack of the doubt.
And i think by now you know, even if i dont know for sure the question that needs to be asked.
I know the answer lies with the One first final truth and trust, it is at least there to be found.
So kennethamy what is your 'the' question that has brought you closest to your ultimate truth?
---------- Post added 12-06-2009 at 08:57 PM ----------
Arjuna;108566 wrote:The ultimate question.
My thought: each question that can be asked is a facet of the diamond-like ultimate question.
Dwelling with the unanswered question is like floating in mid air.... abiding between birth and death.
The entire universe is that diamond with an elemental coar of a question?
What is that question that is our very creation and reason?
Maybe not even the diamond, the reason behind the substance of the gem.
But we are talking about man, and man is (self) made substance.
---------- Post added 12-06-2009 at 09:04 PM ----------
prothero;108570 wrote:is the universe blind indifference, accidental and without purpose?
You have to decide about the universe before you can determine mans place in it.
Indifference is still a state, is still a consciousness?
Same as your question;
Is the universe sight reason (the reason for seeing), intentional and with purpose?