I saw a video where some guy used some words from Koran to claim Obama as the Antichrist too. I think it would give obama WAY TOO MUCH credit if he were. He is just a politician, a person, who wants to tell others how to live. As far as I am concerned he is just like Bush in almost every way. The only real difference I can see between Bush and Obama is he can actually read. Bush always tried to do his speeches off the cuff but you could get better sense from a drunken baby.

So I don't believe he is anything special. He isn't going to fix anything, and we will continue to be in this huge mess for a long time after he is out of office. That is not even a prediction it is a fact.

But just the other day I overheard a conversation between coworkers. They were formulating their own views about whether Obama is the Antichrist,

These kinds of people are actually allowed into the workforce?! :shocked:

Some time ago somebody told me that a very accomplished, educated man I know believes Obama is the Antichrist. I was surprised at such strong feelings.

It hasn't been that long since I learned that it was best to sit in silence when my friends compared Bush to Hitler... to contradict them only inflamed their lack of logic.

But just the other day I overheard a conversation between coworkers. They were formulating their own views about whether Obama is the Antichrist, and if he was sworn into office using the Koran instead of a Bible. Their conclusion seemed to be that the coming of the Antichrist is not something to become agitated about because it's all part of a divine plan.

So they were serious... as in The Antichrist. Uh... is there some test I can do to determine if I've slipped into the wrong universe accidently? Exactly how far out of the loop am I? Does anybody know what's going on?

I know it is fashionable to denigrate President Bush, and say all kinds of exaggerated things about him which are obviously not true. (Someone who got a Harvard MA can't read). People who don't like the policies of a politician are constantly going off the deep end, and saying things like Obama is the Anti-Christ (whatever that means). Of course, that kind of thing undermines their credibility, since it is hard to take them seriously after that. Obviously, Bush and Obama had very different policies. But, but, from a distance, they seem alike, just as from a distance, and without any knowledge, some people would not differentiate between the Moon and the Sun. (After all, they are both up there, and they both shine).

There is only so much a president can do. That is how the Constitution fashions it. For example, Obama proposes, but the Congress (and the Courts) disposes. I am pretty happy about that since I don't want a president to have so much power that he can reverse whatever policies and laws he wants to reverse. And you should be happy about that too. (Depending on what kind of country you want to live in, of course). Obama will eventually get some things changed. Whether that means they will be "fixed" is, of course, a very different question. Change is not always fixing. Sometimes it is breaking.

And, finally, predictions can also be facts. In fact, all true predictions are (or become) facts.

There is only so much a president can do. That is how the Constitution fashions it. For example, Obama proposes, but the Congress (and the Courts) disposes. I am pretty happy about that since I don't want a president to have so much power that he can reverse whatever policies and laws he wants to reverse.

This isn't exactly true, there is a way for any president to write anything into law that he wants. It's called an executive order. Although if you look it up you'll see a whole lot of information that talks about what it was intended for but not what it has actually done. There have been over 13,400 written and they effect major policies and laws. The only reason the president doesn't use them for more controversial subjects like health care or gun control is because of the large backlash it would cause.

Most of these executive orders are for things like bypassing who is recorded on the visitation list to the white house, since it was required in the past that all records must be kept on who visits. But since they didn't want certain lobbyists to get into trouble the president wrote an executive order making them exempt to the rule.

Eventually this power will be abused and has been abused already.

YouTube - bush's Executive Order#13422- Total Control Over Agencies

When people take the image literally, they leave behind my experiences of the image and go somewhere I don't know how to follow. I begin to fear for them... in the way I might fear for a friend who I see becoming delusional. But maybe there's nothing to fear here. Maybe it's all normal. I come back to trust in people. Trust that comes from the realization that I don't really have anything to lose if I trust. You know?

Im sorry to say it appears systematic of the attitude of many Americans in their violent reaction to the election of a black man.

I don't quite understand what you mean by "trust" here, though.

Many Americans don't care what skin color their president has. Nor do many believe he's an anti-christ, anti-freeze, or anti-depressant pill. Just hope you didn't mean you think this violent reaction is the general reaction.

Im not saying its general but from the news it appears many are using any tactic to unseat his agenda. Just look at the money spent on advertising as a tool against his legitimate pronounced election promises. It appears money has more say than votes, win the election and then hopefully the propaganda fed press before the peoples wishes are fulfilled.

Oh, your point was simply that lobbyists have the actual control. Then you'd be right! Money does have more say than votes, but it has been that way way before Obama, hasn't it?

I think people are just skeptical about his agenda. I've only recently been ignoring the hyperbolic "Change" slogan and really been digging into what he's actually doing - particularly healthcare-related since I work for one of the biggest healthcare providers in my area. To tell you the truth, I think his intentions are well, but I'm still skeptical as to how his ideas will pan out. But my skepticism has nothing to do with his race, religion, or brand of deodorant.