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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 09:11 am
It seems that everything I seek. Its just pointless. It just turns out to b some guy that is easily debunked by science. All peoples complicated theories.. Theres really no point if its the ultimet truth you want to seek. Everything just seems to be a reflection of my doubts or hopes about reality.

I want something fundamental. Im getting more sure that there is no truth what so ever. That statement that there is no truth is the only truth.. but even if you make that statement subject to bein not true then it still leads back to the statement.

This guy is the losest I have found to explaining this

YouTube - Adi Da Samraj - You Can't Get There From Here

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Look what I just found.. this always happens. This is my main problem. It keeps happening. Everything I find. theres always some crazy oposeing story. In this case the oposeing story Is actually scary.


YouTube - Adi Da Samraj aka Da Free John - NBC Today Show Pt 2 of 2
 
richrf
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 12:19 pm
@glasstrees,
Hi there,

Do you have a favorite game that you play?

I enjoy:

1) Scrabble
2) Crosswords
3) Chess
4) Table Tennis
5) Tennis
6) Shooting basketball hoops with friends
7) Monopoly
8) Trivial Pursuit
9) Boggle

Do you have games that you like? Which ones? Why do you like them? Did you have games that you played when you were young? Which ones? What did you enjoy about them?

Rich
 
glasstrees
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 12:26 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73392 wrote:
Hi there,

Do you have a favorite game that you play?

I enjoy:

1) Scrabble
2) Crosswords
3) Chess
4) Table Tennis
5) Tennis
6) Shooting basketball hoops with friends
7) Monopoly
8) Trivial Pursuit
9) Boggle

Do you have games that you like? Which ones? Why do you like them? Did you have games that you played when you were young? Which ones? What did you enjoy about them?

Rich


I like most games that life can provide.

apart from the mystery of life itself. all the other silly ego based games. Yeah there amazing. relationships, making money and spending it, getting from point A to point B. Always up for a challenge.

What I never enjoy is. Being confused about death, life and reality itself. And whenever I feel I get somewhere I find out that person is scamming you or in the case of this guy, creating a cult to forfill his sexual fantasys :L

This game is the game I really do not enjoy. Its a game of snakes and ladders but there all snakes. Every time. And if you do go up a ladder. You just see a furthered horizon of space. A game with no chance in winning.
 
richrf
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 12:36 pm
@glasstrees,
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I agree there are many games that are tough. Many that I would rather not play. Are there specific games that you play and really enjoy. Sports, board games, word games? Ever play jump rope or anything like that? Hide-and-seek? Do you ever play with children? Are there any games like this that you enjoy? Really enjoy?

Rich
 
glasstrees
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 12:43 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73395 wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I agree there are many games that are tough. Many that I would rather not play. Are there specific games that you play and really enjoy. Sports, board games, word games? Ever play jump rope or anything like that? Hide-and-seek? Do you ever play with children? Are there any games like this that you enjoy? Really enjoy?

Rich


I cant say im into any childhood kinda games. I dont even play video games. but they have been replaced with other games of sorts. as I said.

well.

I enjoy fashion? thats a game... I guess. It feels as im always developing and getting to compare myself to other people. there are lots of things I do for fun just for the sake of fun. If thats what you mean. Yes

so yeah. I play games. I enjoy playing games.
 
richrf
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 12:57 pm
@glasstrees,
dwixi;73396 wrote:
I enjoy fashion? thats a game... I guess. It feels as im always developing and getting to compare myself to other people. there are lots of things I do for fun just for the sake of fun. If thats what you mean. Yes

so yeah. I play games. I enjoy playing games.


Hi there,

Absolutely, fashion is definitely kind of a game. Young children start with dolls. And they clothe the dolls and learn to have fun dressing the dolls (guys might play with toy soldiers), and doing things.

So what is your favorite game to play? A have a few. Right now it is table tennis. But I don't play table tennis to win. I play table tennis just to enjoy learning how to hit the ball consistently, hit the ball hard, hit the ball with lots of spin, return really hard hits. Those kinds of things. Here is the way I would like to play table tennis:

YouTube - Table Tennis -Spectacular!!

I enjoy it a lot!

Rich
 
glasstrees
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 04:42 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73399 wrote:
Hi there,

Absolutely, fashion is definitely kind of a game. Young children start with dolls. And they clothe the dolls and learn to have fun dressing the dolls (guys might play with toy soldiers), and doing things.

So what is your favorite game to play? A have a few. Right now it is table tennis. But I don't play table tennis to win. I play table tennis just to enjoy learning how to hit the ball consistently, hit the ball hard, hit the ball with lots of spin, return really hard hits. Those kinds of things. Here is the way I would like to play table tennis:

YouTube - Table Tennis -Spectacular!!

I enjoy it a lot!

Rich


wow. that video is great. It actually made me smile.
 
richrf
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 04:46 pm
@glasstrees,
Hi,

Quote:
wow. that video is great. It actually made me smile.

That is the whole idea.

In Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus, he likens the absurdity of life to Sisyphus who must constantly roll the same rock up the hill, only to have it roll down again, in an endless cycle. Camus concludes, that we must image Sisyphus as being happy.

And such is life. The table tennis are playing very hard and training very hard, but imagine them having fun at their game. I love playing table tennis even though the training is hard. It is how I amuse myself. It is how I pass the time. It is how I meet and share with other people. It is how I enjoy my life.

Imagine what you are doing, the game(s) that you are playing - as fun! And smile!!! :bigsmile:

Rich
 
glasstrees
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 04:49 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73444 wrote:
Hi,


That is the whole idea.

In Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus, he likens the absurdity of life to Sisyphus who must constantly roll the same rock up the hill, only to have it roll down again, in an endless cycle. Camus concludes, that we must image Sisyphus as being happy.

And such is life. The table tennis are playing very hard and training very hard, but imagine them having fun at their game. I love playing table tennis even though the training is hard. It is how I amuse myself. It is how I pass the time. It is how I meet and share with other people. It is how I enjoy my life.

Imagine what you are doing, the game(s) that you are playing - as fun! And smile!!! :bigsmile:

Rich


Its the idea the He might not be rolling it forever thats the problem
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 04:51 pm
@glasstrees,
Sounds like someone needs to read Hesse's Siddhartha.

Get the Barnes and Noble version because the footnotes were done by Robert Thurman.
 
richrf
 
Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 05:43 pm
@glasstrees,
dwixi;73450 wrote:
Its the idea the He might not be rolling it forever thats the problem


I know. But life without problems is boring, and we do not get to choose our problems. Or do we?? :detective:

Rich
 
glasstrees
 
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 05:09 am
@richrf,
richrf;73468 wrote:
I know. But life without problems is boring, and we do not get to choose our problems. Or do we?? :detective:

Rich


Its strange how death ends up being a life problem. I guess its becuase all death is created by life. It wouldnt exist without its oposite
 
richrf
 
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 07:20 am
@glasstrees,
dwixi;73590 wrote:
Its strange how death ends up being a life problem. I guess its becuase all death is created by life. It wouldnt exist without its oposite


Yes. One wouldn't be fun without the other. You can't play hide-and-seek if no one is hiding.

Rich
 
Anais
 
Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 05:08 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73444 wrote:
Hi,


That is the whole idea.

In Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus, he likens the absurdity of life to Sisyphus who must constantly roll the same rock up the hill, only to have it roll down again, in an endless cycle. Camus concludes, that we must image Sisyphus as being happy.


What I find mildly amusing is the fact that existential conversations can almost never exist without the mention of this story, and I feel almost doomed to repeat reading its premise again and again.

I suppose I could refuse to read the text, but I choose to find meaning.:shifty:

In my experience, most theories can be debunked. All is takes is crafty wording, statements with interpretational flexability and charm of some description.

Does ultimate truth exist?

I am a true fence sitter. I find it difficult to commit to any mentality.
I have given up even pretending to.
:brickwall:
 
manored
 
Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2009 10:26 am
@glasstrees,
richrf;73468 wrote:
I know. But life without problems is boring, and we do not get to choose our problems. Or do we?? :detective:

Rich
Depends of how bored you are =)

That sounds like an existential crisis... as I see it, the only solution is to drink more of the beer of reality =)

Living is kind of like being an alcohol addict. You have to stay in a state of self-delusion (drunkness) or face the meaningless of existance and get depressed.
 
salima
 
Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2009 10:42 am
@glasstrees,
"Living is kind of like being an alcohol addict. You have to stay in a state of self-delusion (drunkness) or face the meaningless of existance and get depressed."............manored

dont you mean and? that sounds like life to me...both of the above.
 
manored
 
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:50 pm
@salima,
salima;78433 wrote:
"Living is kind of like being an alcohol addict. You have to stay in a state of self-delusion (drunkness) or face the meaningless of existance and get depressed."............manored

dont you mean and? that sounds like life to me...both of the above.

Can you be drunk and depressed at once? I have never been drunk, so I dont know =)

But I dont get depressed about life while deluding myself about it, since it seens the whole point of deluding about it is not get depressed about it. If you see it in a broader view though, as in, whole life, then I think we can put an "and" there =)
 
Anais
 
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 02:13 pm
@glasstrees,
Quote:
Can you be drunk and depressed at once? I have never been drunk, so I dont know =)


oh yes. very much so.
 
Zetetic11235
 
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 02:29 pm
@Anais,
Cry tears into your beer =).
 
William
 
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:24 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73468 wrote:
I know. But life without problems is boring, and we do not get to choose our problems. Or do we?? :detective:

Rich


Hello Rich, it depends on what those problems are, wouldn't you agree? IMO, to make a blanket statement such as this can be misconstrued. I think it is that assumption that has always existed in which we concude a balance is needed in that to enjoy life we must know what suffering is. As for as a universal paradigm, I will agree it "had to be that way for us to realize suffering is not "universal" and we can solve our problems or at least greatly minimize them. To assume they are equal constructs in which we have no control over is an extremely defeatist attitude and one that could lead to catastrophic results. I love benign problem solving such as crossword puzzles and the like, just as much as the next person, but in a much broader scale to the more serious problems that face us (see list) we can't just assume those are just "natural" and "that's life" and we will never get that rock to the top of the hill. How depressing.

I know you were being light hearted, but we have got some very serious problems we can solve, but we have become so accustom to them, we become innured and cold. Sure it would be nice if crosswords and hide and seek were the worse problems we encounter, but I afraid that is just not the case and I am sure you will agree.

Just a clarification, knowing I am taking out of the context in which you meant it. As far as boring, some of the problems people face and their helplessness in understanding their nature, leads to a boredom we call clinical depression, IMO.

William
 
 

 
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