I think this is a very important question.

Lots of people are negative about life not having any inerrant purpose. But I think it would suck if it did. Imagine if you existed and started out with a book of rules written by god telling us that we are here too... erm... create a soul for ourselves? And we keep living lives untill we get to the point of being a all loving perfect soul.... Something like that.
Im much happier with the idea that we can create purpose ourselves. It gives us alot more freedom.

Lots of people are also negative about the fact we are going to die anyway so whats the point? Thats an ego perspective. Its just your ego's natral reaction. People that think that arent looking hard enough. Life is a series of moments that are consciousness experiences. Some of these moments put in order give us the illusion that they are going in the direction of them coming to a stop. Time and memories create this delusional state. I think its very interesting our consciousness can experience things like being separate from other parts of it and how we would react with the illusion that it is going to stop one day.

This is my positive take on the main things that give people depression about existence. However I do often feel depressed and negative. But I use this as a sign i need to grow in that area. There are still fears and things i havnt faced at the back of my mind that I need to face so i can atleaset rationalise it.


My question to you is. Are you negative or positive about this figment we call existence?

I think this is a very important question.

Lots of people are negative about life not having any inerrant purpose. But I think it would suck if it did. Imagine if you existed and started out with a book of rules written by god telling us that we are here too... erm... create a soul for ourselves? And we keep living lives untill we get to the point of being a all loving perfect soul.... Something like that.
Im much happier with the idea that we can create (recognize our) purpose ourselves. It gives us alot more freedom.

Lots of people are also negative about the fact we are going to die anyway so whats the point? Thats an ego perspective. Its just your ego's natural reaction. People that think that arent looking hard enough. Life is a series of moments that are consciousness experiences. Some of these moments put in order give us the illusion that they are going in the direction of them coming to a stop (end). Time and memories create this delusional state. I think its very interesting our consciousness can experience things like being separate from other parts of it and how we would react with the illusion that it is going to stop one day.

This is my positive take on the main things that give people depression about existence. However I do often feel depressed and negative. But I use this as a sign i need to grow in that area. There are still fears and things i havnt faced at the back of my mind that I need to face so i can atleaset rationalise (understand) it.


My question to you is. Are you negative or positive about this figment we call existence?

nothing at all matters that is my opinion.

I am positive about the freedoms delivered to me within my own existence but i hate the human race and the damage we do. I know the causes are within isolated groups but its these groups that run our planet. This world is rotting and falling apart and although i try my hardest to bring some light into my life and the lives of others around me it is overshadowed by fear and war and crime. Im no saint but i would never take someones liberty, freedom or livelihood and im so angry about the direction we are headed. If i ran the world, Things would certainly be different

nothing at all matters that is my opinion.
i dont really think that it is negative i think that it is being aware.
i think the problem is that instead of seeing ourselves as animals in which we are.
we have convinced ourselves that we are these superior beings with a purpose to live

I am a lot happier and more optimistic when entertaining the notion:
That the universe is alive, enchanted and perceptive to the core (panpsychism).
That the universe is engaged in a perpetual process of creative advance and perpetually becoming (possiblity becoming reality):

Than entertaining the notion that:
The universe is a mechanistic materialistic deterministic machine in which life and mind are accidental and ultimately purposeless chance happenings.

The choice of worldviews one essentially religious and the other essentially atheistic is just that a choice. Nothing in reason, science or experience dictates one choice over the other.

nothing at all matters that is my opinion.

I'm just an overall negative, apathetic and pessimistic human being.
My Philosophical thoughts and Athiesm have done nothing but heighten this feeling.
I am generally a happy person with others and I'm also happy when ranting about something that annoys me. I would not like to live under (what I would call) a false and even more meaningless existence than the one I live in now.
I would not want to try and please a God only to come to a sudden realisation later in life that Gods do not exist, then realise that I have wasted most of my adult life believing in (what I would call) an imaginary sky-daddy.
On the majority of occassions I am happy with my apathetic and negative nature as in many ways I feel that I can look down upon those who have 'faith' or are vain or people who just look happy ALL the time.

I'm only 17, and sometimes question whether I should really be this negative about things and I always come up with the exact same answer.

It doesn't bother me.

I strive for balance. I try and see life for all its colours. Sometimes life sucks, other times it is heavenly. I have a positive outlook. I don't do positive thinking though because that tends to push the negative away, which isn't true life - just a fantasy.

The negatives are opportunities to learn and grow, however painful they maybe.

Hope I understood what you were asking.

Gaz

I dont really believe in "true life" =)

Imagine if you existed and started out with a book of rules written by god telling us that we are here too... erm... create a soul for ourselves?

My question to you is. Are you negative or positive about this figment we call existence?

Great one liner, where did you get it?

I think it is healthy to be negative in certain cases just as long as you have something positive to back it up with. Too much of any one thing can make ya spiral out of control. Yes that includes being to optimistically positive, as much as that might sound impossible, it can still be too much of a good thing. See how I did that? Turned a positive into a negative? I can do the same with negatives, reread the first line...

I don't know if this is an accurate portrayal of the religious attitude. For example, in Catholicism, freedom of will is axiomatic, it is a given. The idea is that unless we willingly choose what is good, it is not good. If we were just made to behave a certain way, we would be automatons, robots. There would be nothing good about it. Goodness must be freely chosen.

...I feel that I can look down upon those who have 'faith' or are vain or people who just look happy ALL the time.