@withawhy,
withawhy wrote:i do not think i would consider myself a philosopher
I would! "a person who seeks wisdom or enlightenment" [1]
withawhy wrote: philosophers care too much of self to say what they are actually thinking to say, by disguising it in an elongated almost poet, hard to initially grasp kind of way
Yea some do. But we need to be careful here; often times what we
think are someone's motives are just our perception. I too have made the mistake of judging others' by what I think their motives are.
withawhy wrote:"... what if we lost the philosopher for one thread and just spoke about what, at that very moment was on your mind. and right...... NOW"
This is very nice. I think a lot of us "seekers" do this... heck, I'd say most are! But for those of whom I think you're speaking, here's where I think it's coming from.
There are certain "types of minds" among us who want to understand; who want to understand the 'why' and feel the thrill of
reaching out to gain some wisdom and understanding. Even these people; unfortunately, often go through a phase of puffed-up ego as they impress themselves with terms, name-tossing and language (I blogged this whole issue
here). These people feel no satisfaction unless they can come away with feeling like they "won" something. This disappoints me, but I believe it to be a necessary part of the growing process that - with time - ultimately ends in a humble mindset, one that accepts the truth of the wiser one who knows, "... you will survive being bested" [2]
Good stuff: Leave pride at the door and just share, never
argue just to argue and forget about puerile notions of "winning" a point.
Ya can't lose with honesty. Thanks, nice topic
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[1]
Definition
[2] "
Southern Cross", Crosby, Stills and Nash