Canada's Future

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Zetetic11235
 
Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 10:45 pm
@Holiday20310401,
Meanwhile the U.S. has figured out how to turn rats into fighter pilots...or rather parts of rats brains as it were.
 
Victor Eremita
 
Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 12:08 am
@Zetetic11235,
Who here believes Canada by the 22nd century will be either a part of the United States of America or a constituent country of the US (like England to Scotland), raise their hands?

*Hand raised*
 
Victor Eremita
 
Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 12:13 am
@Victor Eremita,
Victor Eremita wrote:
Who here believes Canada by the 22nd century will be either a part of the United States of America or a constituent country of the US (like England to Scotland), raise their hands?

*Hand raised*


I'm sorry, I wish it wasn't so, but when I see things like "AMERICAN GROUP BUYS THE HUDSON'S BAY COMPANY", that's just so disappointing.
 
Holiday20310401
 
Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 12:15 am
@Victor Eremita,
As long as the US can get their hands on Canada's resources, thats all that I think would affect the outcome. At 2:15 am anyways I think that narrowly.
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 12:36 am
@Holiday20310401,
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At 2:15 am anyways I think that narrowly.


Hoozah for the late night crowd! We who cannot find anything better to do on Saturday night than post on an online philosophy forum.
 
Thucydides
 
Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 02:52 pm
@Didymos Thomas,
Didymos Thomas wrote:
I always thought their diminutive military was an asset. When was the last time Canada was stuck with tens of thousands of combat troops half a world away engaged in an futile bloody mess?


They do much of the fighting in Afghanistan.
 
VideCorSpoon
 
Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 03:04 pm
@Thucydides,
I just saw something on the history channel that the earth experiances periodic ice ages every 30-40,000 years. Apparently the next ice age is in the next few thousand years. Also, there was apparently a mini ice age during the middle ages. They then showed what would happen when the ice age hit... and gentlemen... Canada, as well as northern America is doomed. So ironically, the future fate of Canada is not war, but ice. Also, New York got hit... which is a must in any apocalyptic vision... gotta show that statue of liberty being knocked down by something. Has anyone else noticed that?

Pretty interesting stuff. Apparently the earth is only habitable for another billion years and then the earth goes into geological turmoil and ends up like mars.

If you'll excuse me, I have to go get a case of aerosol cans, a flame thrower, a dump truck full of salt, and ignite a few thousand oil wells. No ice age on my watch... planet earth.
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 05:58 pm
@VideCorSpoon,
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They do much of the fighting in Afghanistan.


Canadian forces are engaged in Afghanistan - a few thousand as part of NATO obligations. Not exactly 'tens of thousands' 'half a world away engaged in an futile bloody mess'.
 
Holiday20310401
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 07:33 pm
@Victor Eremita,
Victor Eremita wrote:
Who here believes Canada by the 22nd century will be either a part of the United States of America or a constituent country of the US (like England to Scotland), raise their hands?

*Hand raised*


Well after watching the zeitgeist I see that we already are a union in that we are probably going to have the amero soon. This'll be bad, but people will be persuaded.
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 08:38 pm
@Holiday20310401,
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Well after watching the zeitgeist I see that we already are a union in that we are probably going to have the amero soon. This'll be bad, but people will be persuaded.


Don't believe everything you hear. That film was interesting, but not exactly accurate.
 
Holiday20310401
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 08:56 pm
@Didymos Thomas,
Alright, to what extent do you advocate for its thoughts?

Did you know RFID chips are passive. It wouldn't be a stretch. And I don't believe the totalitarian stuff but it did teach me one thing. Something has got to be done about the federal reserve system. And I do believe that 911 was staged. I mean that titanium stuff on the attack on the pentagon seemed the most obvious, and my dad thought it was pretty conclusive, considering he is an aerospace engineer.

But still... your thoughts? Canada's future is held through the union so its all good.
 
oxherder
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:10 pm
@Holiday20310401,
and some of us americans are hanging by the thread, waiting for Barack to win the election...then it'll be all good, for us all.
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:11 pm
@Holiday20310401,
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Alright, to what extent do you advocate for its thoughts?
Very little. Conspiracy theories do not hold water. For example, the movie tries to argue that Christianity is a pagan religion. To make this point, the movie introduces a great deal of connections between pagan traditions and Christian tradition. What they miss is that religion evolves - Christianity isn't pagan, it is influenced by pagan faiths.

I appreciate the willingness to question and seek truth, but the attempt to establish some broad conspiracy is, at the very least, misleading.

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Did you know RFID chips are passive. It wouldn't be a stretch.
Some are passive (have no internal power supply) and some are active.

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And I don't believe the totalitarian stuff but it did teach me one thing. Something has got to be done about the federal reserve system.
This is why these movies can be dangerous. It is my opinion that the US has experienced a shift towards totalitarianism. This is a process that takes time. I do not see the shift as part of some larger conspiracy.

But, yeah, the Fed is a scary system.

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And I do believe that 911 was staged. I mean that titanium stuff on the attack on the pentagon seemed the most obvious, and my dad thought it was pretty conclusive, considering he is an aerospace engineer.
There are some fishy details. That's certain. Me, I'm not convinced it was the government, nor am I convinced it was a terrorist organization. I simply do not know one way or the other. Then again, given my deeply rooted criticism of the government, and my criticisms of terrorist organizations, either way I'm not exactly fond of the culprit.

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But still... your thoughts? Canada's future is held through the union so its all good.
No one can predict the future. Canada has a lot going for it, and many serious issues to be addressed. Who knows what will happen. All you can do is try to work for the best as best you can.

To regurgitate Candide's famous advice - cultivate your garden.
 
Holiday20310401
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:22 pm
@Didymos Thomas,
You are one stubborn person, especially with religion. I believe that one should see it for what humanity has made of it in history and understand that. Then decide whether it is different today and follow the religion based on that.

But really, what would need to convince you that the 911 attack was staged? The release of the security feeds? Because, I'm sorry, the conclusion is staring blatantly upon even a religious person's face here. But yeah, I don't think it matters what the bible really is once we realize that God is not meant to construe with an objective form, a book. Religion and God are separate, should be.

And I can't wait to see the look on Bush's face when Obama wins. He'd better, I can't see the US voting republican again.
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:41 pm
@Holiday20310401,
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You are one stubborn person, especially with religion. I believe that one should see it for what humanity has made of it in history and understand that. Then decide whether it is different today and follow the religion based on that.


See, I do not see the stubbornness. I came back to religion two years ago after being a rather militant atheist. The history of religion is absolutely vital - if we are to understand human history. Short of being a militant atheist, I'm about as critical of religion as a person can be.

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But really, what would need to convince you that the 911 attack was staged? The release of the security feeds? Because, I'm sorry, the conclusion is staring blatantly upon even a religious person's face here.


Religion has nothing to do with the question: 'Who committed the 9/11 attacks?'

I've looked at both sides of the argument. Popular Mechanics had an issue some time ago debunking many of the claims made by people who deny the official 9/11 story. And one also has to remember - 9/11 was a shocking event. Such events cause many different reactions in people, some are driven to intense nationalism, others are driven to blame the government.

I think it's one of those questions that will just take time. Time for the government to release all pertinent information, time for more information to be gathered about the terrorist groups supposedly responsible.

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But yeah, I don't think it matters what the bible really is once we realize that God is not meant to construe with an objective form, a book. Religion and God are separate, should be.


The Bible is literature. God is a religious concept. Literature can discuss the ineffable by using metaphor and other figurative language. We just have to read carefully.

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And I can't wait to see the look on Bush's face when Obama wins. He'd better, I can't see the US voting republican again.


I have disagreements with Obama's platform. I mean, it's politics. This is a dirty game. But I do think Obama would be a step in the right direction, especially when we consider what is at stake in the Supreme Court.

I'm not so optimistic - I can imagine McCain winning. My money is on Obama, but the race is hardly in the bag. Could go either way.
 
 

 
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