There are two types of people in this world

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mark noble
 
Reply Sat 29 May, 2010 03:42 pm
@Fido,
Hi all,

Every person is an individual, but (socially) we all fall into one of three contingent catagories - Shepherds, wolves or sheep. And then the sub-categories thereof.

Be well, all.

Mark...
 
Fido
 
Reply Sat 29 May, 2010 06:14 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble;170506 wrote:
Hi all,

Every person is an individual, but (socially) we all fall into one of three contingent catagories - Shepherds, wolves or sheep. And then the sub-categories thereof.

Be well, all.

Mark...

I think it would take more than a single characteristic to define a type, other wise would would all be a different type...Look at the great variety of dogs in the species, and even the great similarity between wolves and Jackles... We could consider every breed of dog as a type, but the consideration would be entirely subjective...It is like the difference between races of people which is such a slight difference as to be meaningless...
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Sat 29 May, 2010 06:17 pm
@platorepublic,
I would say that the individual is an abstraction. We do have separate bodies, but these bodies came from other bodies. We do have separate minds, right? But these minds interpenetrate one another by means of language and action.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Sun 30 May, 2010 10:51 am
@Reconstructo,
Reconstructo;170562 wrote:
I would say that the individual is an abstraction. We do have separate bodies, but these bodies came from other bodies. We do have separate minds, right? But these minds interpenetrate one another by means of language and action.

Individualism in the guise of a absolution is a modern reductionism.

Reductionism in its modern bastardised form is a subtractive abstraction. It takes out what needs to be there. It takes out the personality objective of the individual, reducing all the while the behaviour and language to a horrid excuse of 'individual' solo and simple. (Personality is first person, person is member of a people a species specific endeavour, but 'personality' has not evaded this horrid modern individualism reductionism either)

Each a God and no longer Godlike or as God. Subtractive abstractionist reductionism.
Freud an example of the ills of a subtractive abstractivator reductionist.
Poop joke. Subtractive abstractionist reductionism.

Even Darwinism does not adequately explain systemic wholeness, the individual as part of family the family as part of the individual.
Even Darwinism does not explain what evolution is for or against adequately.

Organisms; a something, a whole that is made up of parts the whole having dominion over the sum of its parts, one whole distinct above from that the parts which make it. No matter how important each part is and is what
makes the whole possible it does preclude that the parts need the whole more than the whole needs the parts, both would perish but this would happen without the whole.
A single human being, Human kind, Humanity as an individual and then species is an organism.

The matrix of development.

Line dancing.

Stop thinking you are born to conquer your family, instead try to conquer with them.
We are all tied to together, tethered to the horse called purpose (evolution), we crave it, we seek it, we taste with it, we miss it, we need it. We get sick without it the selfish individual (subtractive abstractionist reductionism) instead of a dancing family species.
This sick individual thinks it is an organ that can survive without its body.

I don't like where society is going that prefers the privileged organs more than all of them, it is this sick individualism that is infecting even the higher whole. Soon the species will be geared toward the sick individual with the subtractive abstractive reductionist purpose leaving our language arts faiths sickly individualised.

This post has gone on far to long,
A positive individual knows how rare and important its organ and organism is to the body and the more vast organism.
WE need to know we are part of a family before we start having our own.
Together as a recognised species we evolve more successfully and fruitfully, together we can grasp what evolution is truly for and finally be completed by complementation.

On what is the unity of the species of mankind based and building for?
Comparison, compatibility, companion, compassion, complement.

I am human above that of a sometime sun,
I am a sometime sun because I am human.
I am not (a) human because I am a human being,
I am a human being because I am human.

No such thing really as 'a' human.
No such thing really as 'a' individual.
I need never be alone again as long as I am available.
No one can be alone always and be healthy and survive for them selves or for others.
Society is a failure by recognising the one above the all.

I am human,
I BELONG with, as humans.

There is one type, which means there are no types.
There is no reduction,
there is no abduction,
there is evolution,
there is whole,
there is human.
 
platorepublic
 
Reply Sun 30 May, 2010 11:13 am
@mark noble,
mark noble;170506 wrote:
Hi all,

Every person is an individual, but (socially) we all fall into one of three contingent catagories - Shepherds, wolves or sheep. And then the sub-categories thereof.

Be well, all.

Mark...

I am not sure how you mean by we all socially fall into one of three categories: shepherds, wolves or sheep. Can you elaborate on this point?
 
mark noble
 
Reply Mon 31 May, 2010 07:16 am
@platorepublic,
platorepublic;170876 wrote:
I am not sure how you mean by we all socially fall into one of three categories: shepherds, wolves or sheep. Can you elaborate on this point?


Hi Plato,

Do excuse my terms, I've studied this a great deal, and often forget to mention the begginings thereof.

Shepherds - Those who lead, govern, make the rules up, etc.
Wolves - Those who do the bidding of the shepherds - Control, nurture, persuade and incite - The relative flock of... Sheep.

Sheep - Those that follow, conform, and keep the cogs revolving.

This is the typical construct of society-in-general, it is brief, I agree - but, needn't be long and drawn out, in order to understand the process thereof.

Have a fantastic day, Plato.

Mark...
 
platorepublic
 
Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2010 05:03 am
@mark noble,
mark noble;171228 wrote:
Hi Plato,

Do excuse my terms, I've studied this a great deal, and often forget to mention the begginings thereof.

Shepherds - Those who lead, govern, make the rules up, etc.
Wolves - Those who do the bidding of the shepherds - Control, nurture, persuade and incite - The relative flock of... Sheep.

Sheep - Those that follow, conform, and keep the cogs revolving.

This is the typical construct of society-in-general, it is brief, I agree - but, needn't be long and drawn out, in order to understand the process thereof.

Have a fantastic day, Plato.

Mark...

Can't the wolves just be sheep?
 
mark noble
 
Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2010 09:18 am
@platorepublic,
platorepublic;171675 wrote:
Can't the wolves just be sheep?


Hi Plato,

Of course, but with teeth and claws.
Ultimately, even the shepherds can be classed as sheep in the employ of God or Nature (however perceived).

have a great day, Plato.

Mark...
 
platorepublic
 
Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2010 09:57 am
@mark noble,
mark noble;171732 wrote:
Hi Plato,

Of course, but with teeth and claws.
Ultimately, even the shepherds can be classed as sheep in the employ of God or Nature (however perceived).

have a great day, Plato.

Mark...

You are funny. You have a great day too, Mark.
 
G-Thomson
 
Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2010 01:47 pm
@platorepublic,
To quote the great Clint Eastwood, who just turned 80 on the 31st May: "There are two types of people in the world my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
 
 

 
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