Truth?

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Dirt
 
Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 07:58 pm
If you don't allready know the truth then how would you recognize the truth when you achieved it?

Further How do we know that what is the truth doesn't change as all other things seem to change? Even if they stay the same to most extents things change at least in that they are existing in a different time...

 
HexHammer
 
Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2012 09:02 pm
@Dirt,
1) you should know what 23o095 + 50923452 is even though you don't know the answer in advance, why? Because you know the base algorithm to know the answer.

2) truth isn't just some concept which most philosophers think, truth in itself doesn't exist but can be concluded, out of logican and rational conclusions, why science books are rewritten now and then, because the previous conclusion was wrong.
 
Ginkgo
 
Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 06:22 pm
@HexHammer,
Facts are the personification of objectiveness in our language.

They are not perfect, as they are only true inside the space we have limited via our clauses. We could say they are objective, by defining objectivity as the collective subjectivity of humanity.

On the other hand, I believe absolute truth does not exist.

It is very interesting exercise to mix philosophy and physics and think about relative true, relative time and past events. Events occurred in the past would be true, and as there is no way of going back in time, they would remain true. However, those events are past just for a certain number of observers. For others, light could very well be showing it to them right now.
However, there is a timeline in the universe and we could still somehow “absolutely” pinpoint where our event took place, and thus classify it as past.

But I haven’t found any truth that could stretch into the future eternally, due to the everchanging nature of our universe. Unless, of course, that there are not absolute truths. But when thinking it twice, I realize that could change as well.

It is also to be remarked that all these statements are based on the fact that we can perceive reality as it is. And that is not true, nor proveable. Because in order to prove we can perceive reality, we have to use the senses with which we perceive reality, the same tools we are trying to prove.
 
 

 
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