Self Enquiry - Concerning the exploration of mind Vs consciousness

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Reply Wed 26 Aug, 2009 01:52 pm
Concerning the exploration of mind Vs consciousness

Self-enquiry Theory

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The investigation into the origins and reality of Self and of consciousness leads us to the questioning of the mind and consciousness. Is the mind the prime mover, or is it consciousness itself?

Here is offered as a practical exercise and an opportunity to investigate the reality of both the mind and consciousness, and to decide whether this is in fact a valid method to unveil the truth of either. It makes no difference as to the beliefs on the part of the individual, as any religious belief is irrelevant to the practice of this exercise.

For all those interested and concerned with the question of mind vs consciousness, here is offered as a means of exploration and a method for investigation that is also open for debate and discussion.

CygnusX1

Preamble By David Godman

Sri Ramana Maharshi maintained that Self-realisation could be brought about merely by giving up the idea that there is an individual self, which functions through the body and the mind.

A few of his advanced devotees were able to do this quickly and easily, but the others found it virtually impossible to discard the ingrained habits of a lifetime without undertaking some form of spiritual practice. Sri Ramana Maharshi sympathised with their predicament and whenever he was asked to prescribe a spiritual practice which would facilitate Self-awareness he would recommend a technique he called self-enquiry. This practice was the cornerstone of his practical philosophy.

Before embarking on a description of the technique itself it will be necessary to explain Sri Ramana Maharshi's views on the nature of the mind since the aim of self-enquiry is to discover by direct experience, that the mind is non-existent...

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jeeprs
 
Reply Mon 14 Sep, 2009 07:34 pm
@CygnusX1,
I am familiar with the writings of Sri Ramana Maharishi and believe that he truly was an embodiment of spiritual enlightenment.

The point is, though, that it is not a matter of understanding words. To really practise this undestanding is a lifelong and very arduous spiritual discipline. Ramana Maharishi himself walked away from his home and all possessions and concern for himself. Had he not been tended by some local people who recognised his saintliness, he might well have succumbed to starvation. For 20 years after his realisation, he remained largely silent and a recluse, giving no heed to his physical well-being, insect bites, the weather, or anything else. He owned nothing and ate only what was brought to him.

There are plenty of books saying 'you are already enlightened' or 'realise your own true nature'. But to actually traverse this path of self-enquiry - which I accept is completely genuine - requires a great deal of discipline and sacrifice. This is no reason not to study it, but I think it needs to be acknowledge that it is not an easy path to walk.

What do you thinK?
 
Caroline
 
Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 05:57 am
@CygnusX1,
I think that it's not any easy path, it is a hard one but then nothing is worth having if it's easy!
 
richrf
 
Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 09:18 am
@Caroline,
For some time, I have wondered whether it is enlightened to suggest that there is enlightenment? Does the teacher learn from the student or does the student learn from the teacher?

Rich
 
 

 
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