@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil. Albuquerque;133123 wrote:Are you saying that the numen is a source of emotion or a emotion, because if it is the last, that would be awkward...
A numen is an object/concept that
inspires emotion. Yes, numen as emotion would be awkward. A numen is porn for the spirit, you might say. A numen is a concept/object that inspires a sense of the holy.
Quote:
The English word
holy dates back to at least the 11th Century with the
Old English word
hālig, an adjective derived from
hāl meaning
whole and used to mean 'uninjured, sound, healthy, entire, complete'.
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Fil. Albuquerque;133123 wrote:
...you also mention Transcendence, and this I find hard to be...such a thing would be unreachable even indirectly...Phenomena is the manifestation of the Nominous in the Nominous, which is Perfect...so it can not fault it by referring to Transcendence...Nouminous is accessible through the Historical Process, which is Phenomena in the Nominous and not derived of the Nominous, once this one is all there is, and nothing can be beyond it...
I should have clarifed. In another post I connect the transcendent and the holy. For me, at the moment,
transcendence is just a feeling. As man becomes conscious of his transcendental projections/concepts, he realizes that he cannot, conceptually, "go beyond," or transcend in an intellectual sense. But he can attain the holy or the numinous, as these are feelings inspired by numens. "Beauty is the splendor of the truth." The transcendent would only be this splendor. It goes beyond nothing except the usual banal emotions. Perhaps a numen (which is always a concept/object for transcendental reasons) becomes more radiant/numinous as it is refined--> including the refinement achieved by negative theology, Kant, Hegel, etc.
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Fil. Albuquerque;133123 wrote:
...Transcendental refers to Nominous, which is the Frozen state of phenomena as the Historical Process, thus being out of Time/Space in a state of superposition were objects fuse in the ONE meta-object...(to this I call Potential Order)
I'm not sure what you mean here. For me, "transcendental" refers to the unchanging general structure that humans impose on experience. For instance, man always always always imposes unities. He divides the world into singular objects. A concept is a circle, you might say. It unites phenomena, including other concepts. I'm not sure what you mean by Nominous. Are you referring to noumena or numinous or something else? Do you associate "transcendent" with a view that escapes time, and sees the world as an eternal unity? I personally associate this more with "transcendental self-consciousness" which is just man becoming aware that the structure he finds in "reality" is not only his but
him. Man himself is the circle and the one. He is the slicer and the dicer, but
also the synthesizer. He can string these concepts/objects together and create self-consciousness/wisdom.
---------- Post added 02-27-2010 at 03:59 PM ----------
Fil. Albuquerque;133123 wrote:
...Nominous is the phenomena of Phenomena, as the nominous of Nonimous is the Phenomena...
now does that make sense ?
This is elegant. Could you elaborate?
