@kennethamy,
kennethamy;127056 wrote:When people say that free will is this or that, that doesn't mean that they actually use the term "free will" the way they define it. It is notorious among linguists that informants are rarely if ever good reporters of how they actually use the term in question. They may tell you that the definition of word X is so and so, when what they say has absolutely nothing to do with how, in fact, they, and other fluent speakers of the language actually use the term. It takes an expert to define a term.
It isn't definitions (in the ordinary sense) philosophers are after. It is analyses of the concepts being talked about. Definitions are the start of analyses. But not the end-point. But definitions are a good start. A definition of a word is not a good definition if it misreports how the word is actually used by fluent speakers of the language. Sometimes there are bad definitions. But we can test a definition by determining whether it is actually how the term is used. In general, if the definition is too narrow, so it does not include everything that is designated by the term, or if it is too broad, and includes things not designated by the term, then the definition is a bad definition.
Well this is all True, (or) I agree with most of it, but how do you account for the development of language ?
...CONCEPTS AND DEFINITIONS EVOLVE PRECISELY BECAUSE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE A PERSONAL GRASP ON THEM...
(Scientists and Philosophers included)
(Context evolves, therefore, that must be Necessary...)
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When it comes to free will I find it unacceptable that one considers that only direct conscious coercion is accountable to restrain it...
Why should that be ?
Conscience and Mind will, as Mind itself, are an epiphenomena that arises from something far deeper and more complex...necessarily Will cannot be connoted only with Counscient decision making, infact most of the time it is n?t (emotions run the boat)...thus, stating conscientiously (there?s no other way) that we were free in our decision is always a huge leap of faith...in other words if it is caused (beyond Conscience) it cannot be free...(and that?s the end of it...)
So, there are in fact several reasoned causes to not accept lightly that such a thing as Free Will exists...this, is just one more !