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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2009 03:17 pm
One of the things we must think about when we start talking about art is how we define what is art and what isn't. An aesthete must be somewhat circular, in that he begins with a particular set of ideas of what pieces of art are and aren't Art and then must justify these preexisting notions: it would be a poor aesthete indeed who built up an aesthetic theory that completely contradicted his intuitive sense of Art.

So what art do we think is Art?
Having spent some time studying literary style I would say that literature is the highest art (in the order poetry, prose, drama, oratory); then music; then studio arts (e.g. painting, sketching, and photography); then cartoons (because of what they must successfully do, that is, provide social commentary and a joke day after day, week after week, as well as gain a degree of 'lushness'); then haute cuisine; and lastly, at the bottom of the heap, cinematic craft and video games (both of which require such a great committee of people for their realization that the importance of the artist is lost, and video games are also an immature form, that is, I think the best games of all time have yet to be created).
 
nameless
 
Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2009 03:59 pm
@hammersklavier,
Wow! This must be the 100th thread entitled "What is art?" How perennial... As common, to get started, I'll offer Leo Tolstoy's thoughts on the matter;

"What Is Art?" (excerpts)

by Leo Tolstoy


Editor's Note: This essay (originally published in 1896) and the translation by Alymer Maude (first published in 1899) are in the public domain and may be freely reproduced.

About the Author: Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910), although best known for his literary works, also wrote various essays on art, history, and religion.

The discussion questions, bibliographic references, and hyperlinks have been added by Julie Van Camp. (Copyright Julie C. Van Camp 1997) They too may be freely reproduced, so long as this complete citation is included with any such reproductions.

Paragraph numbering below has been added to facilitate class discussion. It was not included in the original text.

[DISCUSSION QUESTIONS]

CHAPTER FIVE (excerpts). . .

#1. In order correctly to define art, it is necessary, first of all, to cease to consider it as a means to pleasure and to consider it as one of the conditions of human life. Viewing it in this way we cannot fail to observe that art is one of the means of intercourse between man and man.

#2. Every work of art causes the receiver to enter into a certain kind of relationship both with him who produced, or is producing, the art, and with all those who, simultaneously, previously, or subsequently, receive the same artistic impression.

#3. Speech, transmitting the thoughts and experiences of men, serves as a means of union among them, and art acts in a similar manner. The peculiarity of this latter means of intercourse, distinguishing it from intercourse by means of words, consists in this, that whereas by words a man transmits his thoughts to another, by means of art he transmits his feelings.

#4. The activity of art is based on the fact that a man, receiving through his sense of hearing or sight another man's expression of feeling, is capable of experiencing the emotion which moved the man who expressed it. To take the simplest example; one man laughs, and another who hears becomes merry; or a man weeps, and another who hears feels sorrow. A man is excited or irritated, and another man seeing him comes to a similar state of mind. By his movements or by the sounds of his voice, a man expresses courage and determination or sadness and calmness, and this state of mind passes on to others. A man suffers, expressing his sufferings by groans and spasms, and this suffering transmits itself to other people; a man expresses his feeling of admiration, devotion, fear, respect, or love to certain objects, persons, or phenomena, and others are infected by the same feelings of admiration, devotion, fear, respect, or love to the same objects, persons, and phenomena.

#5. And it is upon this capacity of man to receive another man's expression of feeling and experience those feelings himself, that the activity of art is based.

#6. If a man infects another or others directly, immediately, by his appearance or by the sounds he gives vent to at the very time he experiences the feeling; if he causes another man to yawn when he himself cannot help yawning, or to laugh or cry when he himself is obliged to laugh or cry, or to suffer when he himself is suffering - that does not amount to art.

#7. Art begins when one person, with the object of joining another or others to himself in one and the same feeling, expresses that feeling by certain external indications. To take the simplest example: a boy, having experienced, let us say, fear on encountering a wolf, relates that encounter; and, in order to evoke in others the feeling he has experienced, describes himself, his condition before the encounter, the surroundings, the woods, his own lightheartedness, and then the wolf's appearance, its movements, the distance between himself and the wolf, etc. All this, if only the boy, when telling the story, again experiences the feelings he had lived through and infects the hearers and compels them to feel what the narrator had experienced is art. If even the boy had not seen a wolf but had frequently been afraid of one, and if, wishing to evoke in others the fear he had felt, he invented an encounter with a wolf and recounted it so as to make his hearers share the feelings he experienced when he feared the world, that also would be art. And just in the same way it is art if a man, having experienced either the fear of suffering or the attraction of enjoyment (whether in reality or in imagination) expresses these feelings on canvas or in marble so that others are infected by them. And it is also art if a man feels or imagines to himself feelings of delight, gladness, sorrow, despair, courage, or despondency and the transition from one to another of these feelings, and expresses these feelings by sounds so that the hearers are infected by them and experience them as they were experienced by the composer.

#8. The feelings with which the artist infects others may be most various - very strong or very weak, very important or very insignificant, very bad or very good: feelings of love for one's own country, self-devotion and submission to fate or to God expressed in a drama, raptures of lovers described in a novel, feelings of voluptuousness expressed in a picture, courage expressed in a triumphal march, merriment evoked by a dance, humor evoked by a funny story, the feeling of quietness transmitted by an evening landscape or by a lullaby, or the feeling of admiration evoked by a beautiful arabesque - it is all art.

#9. If only the spectators or auditors are infected by the feelings which the author has felt, it is art.

#10. To evoke in oneself a feeling one has once experienced, and having evoked it in oneself, then, by means of movements, lines, colors, sounds, or forms expressed in words, so to transmit that feeling that others may experience the same feeling - this is the activity of art.

#11. Art is a human activity consisting in this, that one man consciously, by means of certain external signs, hands on to others feelings he has lived through, and that other people are infected by these feelings and also experience them.

#12. Art is not, as the metaphysicians say, the manifestation of some mysterious idea of beauty or God; it is not, as the aesthetical physiologists say, a game in which man lets off his excess of stored-up energy; it is not the expression of man's emotions by external signs; it is not the production of pleasing objects; and, above all, it is not pleasure; but it is a means of union among men, joining them together in the same feelings, and indispensable for the life and progress toward well-being of individuals and of humanity.

#13. As, thanks to man's capacity to express thoughts by words, every man may know all that has been done for him in the realms of thought by all humanity before his day, and can in the present, thanks to this capacity to understand the thoughts of others, become a sharer in their activity and can himself hand on to his contemporaries and descendants the thoughts he has assimilated from others, as well as those which have arisen within himself; so, thanks to man's capacity to be infected with the feelings of others by means of art, all that is being lived through by his contemporaries is accessible to him, as well as the feelings experienced by men thousands of years ago, and he has also the possibility of transmitting his own feelings to others.

#14. If people lacked this capacity to receive the thoughts conceived by the men who preceded them and to pass on to others their own thoughts, men would be like wild beasts, or like Kaspar Houser.

#15. And if men lacked this other capacity of being infected by art, people might be almost more savage still, and, above all, more separated from, and more hostile to, one another.

#16. And therefore the activity of art is a most important one, as important as the activity of speech itself and as generally diffused.

#17. We are accustomed to understand art to be only what we hear and see in theaters, concerts, and exhibitions, together with buildings, statues, poems, novels. . . . But all this is but the smallest part of the art by which we communicate with each other in life. All human life is filled with works of art of every kind - from cradlesong, jest, mimicry, the ornamentation of houses, dress, and utensils, up to church services, buildings, monuments, and triumphal processions. It is all artistic activity. So that by art, in the limited sense of the word, we do not mean all human activity transmitting feelings, but only that part which we for some reason select from it and to which we attach special importance.

#18. This special importance has always been given by all men to that part of this activity which transmits feelings flowing from their religious perception, and this small part of art they have specifically called art, attaching to it the full meaning of the word.

#19. That was how man of old -- Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle - looked on art. Thus did the Hebrew prophets and the ancient Christians regard art; thus it was, and still is, understood by the Mohammedans, and thus it still is understood by religious folk among our own peasantry.

#20. Some teachers of mankind - as Plato in his Republic and people such as the primitive Christians, the strict Mohammedans, and the Buddhists -- have gone so far as to repudiate all art.

#21. People viewing art in this way (in contradiction to the prevalent view of today which regards any art as good if only it affords pleasure) considered, and consider, that art (as contrasted with speech, which need not be listened to) is so highly dangerous in its power to infect people against their wills that mankind will lose far less by banishing all art than by tolerating each and every art.

#22. Evidently such people were wrong in repudiating all art, for they denied that which cannot be denied - one of the indispensable means of communication, without which mankind could not exist. But not less wrong are the people of civilized European society of our class and day in favoring any art if it but serves beauty, i.e., gives people pleasure.

#23. Formerly people feared lest among the works of art there might chance to be some causing corruption, and they prohibited art altogether. Now they only fear lest they should be deprived of any enjoyment art can afford, and patronize any art. And I think the last error is much grosser than the first and that its consequences are far more harmful.

CHAPTER FIFTEEN

#24. Art, in our society, has been so perverted that not only has bad art come to be considered good, but even the very perception of what art really is has been lost. In order to be able to speak about the art of our society, it is, therefore, first of all necessary to distinguish art from counterfeit art.

#25. There is one indubitable indication distinguishing real art from its counterfeit, namely, the infectiousness of art. If a man, without exercising effort and without altering his standpoint on reading, hearing, or seeing another man's work, experiences a mental condition which unites him with that man and with other people who also partake of that work of art, then the object evoking that condition is a work of art. And however poetical, realistic, effectful, or interesting a work may be, it is not a work of art if it does not evoke that feeling (quite distinct from all other feelings) of joy and of spiritual union with another (the author) and with others (those who are also infected by it).

#26. It is true that this indication is an internal one, and that there are people who have forgotten what the action of real art is, who expect something else form art (in our society the great majority are in this state), and that therefore such people may mistake for this aesthetic feeling the feeling of diversion and a certain excitement which they receive from counterfeits of art. But though it is impossible to undeceive these people, just as it is impossible to convince a man suffering from "Daltonism" [a type of color blindness] that green is not red, yet, for all that, this indication remains perfectly definite to those whose feeling for art is neither perverted nor atrophied, and it clearly distinguishes the feeling produced by art from all other feelings.

#27. The chief peculiarity of this feeling is that the receiver of a true artistic impression is so united to the artist that he feels as if the work were his own and not someone else's - as if what it expresses were just what he had long been wishing to express. A real work of art destroys, in the consciousness of the receiver, the separation between himself and the artist - not that alone, but also between himself and all whose minds receive this work of art. In this freeing of our personality from its separation and isolation, in this uniting of it with others, lies the chief characteristic and the great attractive force of art.

#28. If a man is infected by the author's condition of soul, if he feels this emotion and this union with others, then the object which has effected this is art; but if there be no such infection, if there be not this union with the author and with others who are moved by the same work - then it is not art. And not only is infection a sure sign of art, but the degree of infectiousness is also the sole measure of excellence in art.

#29. The stronger the infection, the better is the art as art, speaking now apart from its subject matter, i.e., not considering the quality of the feelings it transmits.

#30. And the degree of the infectiousness of art depends on three conditions:
On the greater or lesser individuality of the feeling transmitted;
on the greater or lesser clearness with which the feeling is transmitted;
on the sincerity of the artist, i.e., on the greater or lesser force with which the artist himself feels the emotion he transmits.

#31. The more individual the feeling transmitted the more strongly does it act on the receiver; the more individual the state of soul into which he is transferred, the more pleasure does the receiver obtain, and therefore the more readily and strongly does he join in it.

#32. The clearness of expression assists infection because the receiver, who mingles in consciousness with the author, is the better satisfied the more clearly the feeling is transmitted, which, as it seems to him, he has long known and felt, and for which he has only now found expression.

#33. But most of all is the degree of infectiousness of art increased by the degree of sincerity in the artist. As soon as the spectator, hearer, or reader feels that the artist is infected by his own production, and writes, sings, or plays for himself, and not merely to act on others, this mental condition of the artist infects the receiver; and contrariwise, as soon as the spectator, reader, or hearer feels that the author is not writing, singing, or playing for his own satisfaction - does not himself feel what he wishes to express - but is doing it for him, the receiver, a resistance immediately springs up, and the most individual and the newest feelings and the cleverest technique not only fail to produce any infection but actually repel.

#34. I have mentioned three conditions of contagiousness in art, but they may be all summed up into one, the last, sincerity, i.e., that the artist should be impelled by an inner need to express his feeling. That condition includes the first; for if the artist is sincere he will express the feeling as he experienced it. And as each man is different from everyone else, his feeling will be individual for everyone else; and the more individual it is - the more the artist has drawn it from the depths of his nature - the more sympathetic and sincere will it be. And this same sincerity will impel the artist to find a clear expression of the feeling which he wishes to transmit.

#35. Therefore this third condition - sincerity - is the most important of the three. It is always complied with in peasant art, and this explains why such art always acts so powerfully; but it is a condition almost entirely absent from our upper-class art, which is continually produced by artists actuated by personal aims of covetousness or vanity.

#36. Such are the three conditions which divide art from its counterfeits, and which also decide the quality of every work of art apart from its subject matter.

#37. The absence of any one of these conditions excludes a work form the category of art and relegates it to that of art's counterfeits. If the work does not transmit the artist's peculiarity of feeling and is therefore not individual, if it is unintelligibly expressed, or if it has not proceeded from the author's inner need for expression - it is not a work of art. If all these conditions are present, even in the smallest degree, then the work, even if a weak one, is yet a work of art.

#38. The presence in various degrees of these three conditions - individuality, clearness, and sincerity - decides the merit of a work of art as art, apart from subject matter. All works of art take rank of merit according to the degree in which they fulfill the first, the second, and the third of these conditions. In one the individuality of the feeling transmitted may predominate; in another, clearness of expression; in a third, sincerity; while a fourth may have sincerity and individuality but be deficient in clearness; a fifth, individuality and clearness but less sincerity; and so forth, in all possible degrees and combinations.

#39. Thus is art divided from that which is not art, and thus is the quality of art as art decided, independently of its subject matter, i.e., apart from whether the feelings it transmits are good or bad.

#40. But how are we to define good and bad art with reference to its subject matter?

This page was put on-line and is maintained by Julie Van Camp, Professor of Philosophy, California State University, Long Beach.

Enjoy
Peace
 
hammersklavier
 
Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2009 04:01 pm
@hammersklavier,
I am approaching the problem in a different way. What among what is considered art do you think is Art? is the question I meant to ask.
 
nameless
 
Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2009 07:40 pm
@hammersklavier,
hammersklavier;44062 wrote:
I am approaching the problem in a different way. What among what is considered art do you think is Art? is the question I meant to ask.

You're welcome.
I have been called an artist, and I haven't a clue as to 'what is art'.
I make 'stuff', many people call it art, some call it crap, and some, everything in-between.
Perhaps like 'beauty' and 'good' and 'evil' and so much more, 'art' remains in the eye of the beholder. It seems a very personal 'opinion'.
One man's trash...
 
Doobah47
 
Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 09:33 am
@nameless,
Couldn't even dream of reading that episode in Nameless' namecalling fantasy, so I thought I'd say

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/doobah/O8.jpg

Does anybody agree with that monkey-business?
 
nameless
 
Reply Fri 23 Jan, 2009 10:07 pm
@Doobah47,
Doobah47;44279 wrote:
Couldn't even dream of reading that episode in Nameless' namecalling fantasy...

Odd that you would 'know' that something that Leo Tolstoy (not I, but you wouldn't know that, now, would you, as you "couldn't even dream of reading" it) wrote, that I offered here, is a "namecalling fantasy".
Perhaps it is my critical analyses of nonsense like that which you offer here, that have your panties all in a bunch? Another 'bruised' ego? It'll heal...
(And displaying your wadded up panties in 'public' is just poor form...)
 
Doobah47
 
Reply Sat 24 Jan, 2009 01:09 pm
@nameless,
Lovely, all I have to do is diss published writers and I get abuse. Presuming Nameless is a tortured genius are we?

I see no quotation symbol, maybe something like this would be applicable:

Jean Baudrillard - Le Systeme Des Objets wrote:
La problematique temporelle est essentielle aux arts industriels


my own edit is in italics and underlined

Nameless the lazy, inane MOFO looks like this ->:poke-eye: right now
 
nameless
 
Reply Sat 24 Jan, 2009 01:37 pm
@Doobah47,
Doobah47;44524 wrote:
Lovely, all I have to do is diss published writers and I get abuse. Presuming Nameless is a tortured genius are we?

I see no quotation symbol, maybe something like this would be applicable:

my own edit is in italics and underlined

Nameless the lazy, inane MOFO looks like this ->:poke-eye: right now

Pathetic!
You clearly display your own 'cognitive' limits!

The first few lines, if you read it at all, which you obviously have not, mentions Tolstoy twice;

nameless; the lazy inane MOFO wrote:


Wow! This must be the 100th thread entitled "What is art?" How perennial... As common, to get started, I'll offer Leo Tolstoy's thoughts on the matter;

"What Is Art?" (excerpts)

by Leo Tolstoy

Did you catch that now? Was it clear enough?
As far as I can see, you display that you have no intellectual credibility (or are blind).
Your childishly needy and emotional response (and pathetic ad-hom attack) is noted. And discarded/ignored.
Pffft!
(Don't bother responding, your blithering is below my recently readjusted radar (just for you), and don't stalk me with your bruised ego; you asked for/earned it!)
 
Didymos Thomas
 
Reply Sat 24 Jan, 2009 06:28 pm
@nameless,
Let's chill out, folks.
 
BrightNoon
 
Reply Sun 25 Jan, 2009 02:59 am
@Didymos Thomas,
I say, art is creation, making, ordering, forming, changing, doing , willing, etc. The question is, what isn't art?
 
Doobah47
 
Reply Sun 25 Jan, 2009 03:36 am
@BrightNoon,
Jean Baudrillard - Le Systeme Des Objets wrote:
La problematique temporelle est essentielle aux arts industriels


Translated (by me) as meaning "the temporal problem is essential to the industrial arts" (slightly skewed from a Baudrillard book); I thought it a fine quote to elucidate the nature of the discussion "what is art?".

Is industrial manufacturing/processing/technology art? Clearly a picture is easily defined as 'art' - whatever it's supposed standard - but could a cog in a machine and the uniform on the factory staff and the manager's portfolio of gold stars and cheeky biscuits be considered art? This leads on to a religious question: Is every existent thing a work of God, thus in some respects 'art'?
 
 

 
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