@prothero,
prothero wrote:i went through the confirmation class and refused confirmation about age 12, i think. Maybe we should start a lapsed christian thread where we can review.
Original sin, the incarnation (jesus as god in the flesh), the atonment (substitutionary, vicarious or sacrificial) and the resurrection (of the flesh, of the spirit), heaven and hell and the second coming. How to interpret these christian doctrines in a symbolic, mythical, or allegorical instead of a literal historical sense? I acutually like mystical christian theology but literalists and fundamentalists are difficult to have meaningful dialogue with.
yes lets do this, open a group, this is important, someone make this happen. CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE
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rajiraouf;117213 wrote:I am almost christian. Just waiting for the final push.
You should never be pushed.
Pull is better.
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Fido;117222 wrote:Jesus said: Do as they say; not as they do...
It is better to behave as a Christian before Christians were Christians than to become a Christian...
It can be all about the becoming.
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Twirlip;127161 wrote: trying to keep a bit of his flame alive.
Your doing it by burning your self brighter, we can do this, and you just proved it by being here and sharing your experience of yourself and him.
I can see you from here.
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jeeprs;127212 wrote:Good judgement. I have discovered a couple of far more fascinating philosophers of consciousness, both current professors of their subject: Alva Noe Out of our Heads: Why you are Not your Brain (I love the first part of the title purely for nostalgic reasons) and W Teed Rockwell Neither Brain nor Ghost.
Have you read any Gopi Krishna?
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Pepijn Sweep;128094 wrote:Was Jezus a chriistian? Or Abraham? The last was willing to sacrefice his son to prove his faith to his god. Does this mean Jews have a tradition of human offerings?
Did this end with Christ?
:nonooo:
Fantastic,
Jesus was the first Christian.
Abraham, prophets never die until their prophecy does.
(Teachers never die if the lesson never fades)
Jesus Christ and Christianity were and are prophecied.
(Still more to come)
Everyone has a tradition of human offering if you go back far enough.
Jesus was the first Sacrifice, Ultimate, showed us how and why it is really needed to be done.
And done.
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JPhil;128079 wrote:I am a Christian but the ones who do not trust the entire bible are not christians.
To trust something you have to first know and understand it.
Clarity is hard put.
Even though, religion helps you see find better, especially deeper.
If it is trustworthy?
Not all religion is.
