Aside from the fact that the first premise needs support before it is accepted as true,

From the idea that most of the common experiences of life are an illusion, we cannot reasonably conclude that we are immortal.

When im dead, will I ask the same question about death ? will I ever live? did I ever live? If I do, did I die? If I can ask any question, then what is life what is death?

Russian filosopher Fyodorov

Wiki: Immortality for all
Achieving immortality and revival of all people who ever lived are two inseparable goals, according to Fedorov. Immortality is impossible, both ethically and physically, without revival. We can't concede that our ancestors, who gave us life and culture, are left to die, that our relatives and friends die. Achieving immortality for living individuals and future generations is only a partial victory over death, only the first stage. The complete victory will be achieved only when everyone is returned to a transformed immortal life.

I believe life never ends due to the infinity of the universe, that is, there is always somewhere the mind can escape to. You died? Someone froze your brain and ressurected you eons later, or you realize it was all a dream, or christians turn out to be correct, etc. But you dont die =)

Excatly where from the big bang to an infinitive universe did the infinitivly take place? Imo the universe is finitive.

Things changes in the universe, and nothing is static in the universe, things changes. Galaxies collide and things blows up ..etc.

Where are the billion of other humans who have lived?

Sounds more like pure poetic spekulation.

The big bang and its consequences are not everything there is to the universe, only everything we can see.

And excatly how do you know? Please elaborate.

The fact that there is something rather than nothing is a paradox. But if something came from nothing, despite the logical impossibility that is, then that ought to happen ad infinitum, since there is infinite nothingness.

After your last reply I forgot to mention that immortalily only applies to the conscious mind, that is, me, or, in your case, you. In other worlds, the billions of people who have already died need not to be in this world.

Seems you fool youself with pretty rethorics.

Turn it around, what if you die? Clearly your observed world ends with you. :cool:

Does it now? We still speak the name of Einstein and his relativity theory, the founding fathers of USA are still spoken of, even though they have died long ago.

With our genetics, we can bring back the dead.

Seems you fool youself with pretty rethorics.

And what is there after death?

only love

But like I said before, all things change and one day when the Earth is no longer viable for human life then "I" will simply pass away.

With our genetics, we can bring back the dead.

Not at all. We can, or rather, could, since we havent got at that point yet (mostly due to opposition against the practice, I believe) clone the said dead person, however it would be just a person with the same DNA, a twin brother/sister.

To revive people we would need to extract/record the information on someone's brain before it was lost. Im not sure how long it would take for this information to be beyond recover, but it would at least require the brain to be avaible and in one piece.

Then, we would need to find a way to grow a human body quickly and in total stasis (as to prevent it from forming a mind), as obviously it wouldnt be nice to replace a growing baby's/kid's mind with someone's else (pretty much murder, actually), and it wouldnt be adequate if we had to wait like 50 years to revive a 50 years old person. Then we would have to figure out a way to put those memories in the clone's brain.

That's close enough for me.

Memories can also be implanted, through past videos of the person, photos ..etc.

While it may be enough depending of your reasons, we cant really call that a revival.

Indeed, but it wouldnt be a perfect revival less we transfered the full contents of the old brain to the new one. I think through things such as photos and videos you would be able to transfer certain memories and behaviors the dead people had, but would still be very far from reproducing its mind perfectly.

Since your refusal are so great, have you actually witnessed any such revival in order to know? I do admit that I havn't.

No. But it is not necessary to see a clone to know its mind is different from the original person. Even the body wouldnt be the same, since through life our body suffers changes that are not written on DNA.

That is true enough per se, but I do think our understanding has become advanced and in few decades we may be able to actually revive people, not in 100% ..but something near.