@mark noble,
mark noble;164983 wrote:Hi Ken,
I disagree. To what I am attempting to achieve by this thread, it is crucial.
If you think it is silly? well, that's your prerogative.
I think it is sound.
Or maybe you feel the need to disregard what you fail to understand? I don't know - and couldn,t be certain if I did know, even if I did.
One thing I do know though - Knowing is not certain! And I say this with no certainty whatsoever.
Thank you Ken, and be merry.
Mark...
Then, what does it have to do with what was being discussed before about knowledge, and whether knowledge requires justification? Can you make any connection between that, and whether logic is logical (whatever that might mean). It is not that I am ignoring it, as you can tell, I am not. I simply have no idea what you are talking about, and how it is suppose to connect with what we were talking about. For instance, would you like to comment on my argument that no one should claim to know anything unless he has justification for it, because it would be ethically misleading for him to do so? Do you agree?
Of course, if when you do say something, and I reply to it, and you simply ignore it, and go on to something entirely different, it does make we wonder whether holding a conversation with you is worth doing. I am sure you can understand that.
I agree with you. Knowledge does not require certainty. That is why I call myself a fallibilist. But, on the other hand, it does seem to me that if one
claims to know something, then he ought to feel certain he does know it, else, it would be very misleading for him to make that claim. Don't you think so?
It is a part of conversational courtesy (in philosophy, anyway) that you take what others say seriously. And that obviously means that you make a serious attempt to reply to what they say, and not behave as if they never said it, and simply go on as if they never had. Philosophical conversation is, as Plato pointed out, a
dialogue. Not off-the-cuff remarks having nothing much to do with what was said before. Perhaps people have to learn that.
Dialogue is different from free association (saying whatever happens to be triggered off in your mind by the last words spoken). It involves argumentation.