@kennethamy,
kennethamy;149382 wrote:I'm saying that while his will was not free in the sense that he wasn't be coerced
Don't you mean that it was free in the sense that he was not coerced? If he was coerced then he wasn't free. Anyway, I don't see how wills can be coerced or not coerced. It is people who are coerced or not coerced, isn't it? Locke said that it isn't the will that is free, it is the person. (If you were to say that my want (will) was coerced (a very strange thing to say) wouldn't you just mean that I was coerced?
Yet another trick of words...will by definition represents the more "sacred" part of ourselves as in it we reveal who we are and what we are about. So, it does not follow...
As for coercion, we certainly were coerced to be born the way we did, with a very specific genetic heritage...
It ads that we do so, in a given Society among others, with certain beliefs, references and cultural bias all around us...
None of this is without cause, less alone a random emergence of properties in the so called decision making that we so easily grant, as ours.
...ours, well, maybe...as an continuous heritage, which we naturally accept, but certainly not produced by us...
...Cause also accounts for "acceptance" of consequence...
...we obviously want to be what we are, as what we are defines what we want...
Free will is nothing but to play with this notion because there is much to be lost if we admit the hard fact that we don?t have any...(starting with Philosophy and ending with Politics)
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...this crap on compatibility between Cause and Free Will, states nothing, and serves no other purpose, but to bring ease to poor minds afraid of loosing themselves in the complexity's that the knowledge of certain truths naturally brings in...Bullshit !