Humanity is a ideal, word and abstract and nothing more.

There is no humanity but instead there only exists individual people.

Humanity is a fabrication or blanket used to lump all individuals together under some fictional goal which is called purpose but in the end there exists no cosmic purpose either which makes the word seem even more useless.

How is the abstract of humanity anything but a secular religion or mythology?

We are not rationally autonomous but instead we are instinctually selfish creatures driven by irrational fears and desires.

There exists nothing to describe us as the grand stewards of this planet.

The world doesn't need saving nor does it desire to be saved.

There is no heaven, salvation or redemption and there exists nothing that we ought to do as a species beyond our fictional insane imaginations and lucid dreaming.

How is humanity an ideal?

Humanity refers to all living human beings. So, there are individuals, and also humanity. Just there are individual blue whales, and then the species blue whale.

As for humanity and purpose, some people may attempt to place a purpose over the whole race, but this does not seem to be a necessary condition for using the term humanity.



You said it yourself - humanity is a term refering to all of the human individuals. Is the term blue whale a secular religion or mythology?



Why are these traits mutually exclusive?



Except that our species is capable of destroying life on this planet.



As the "world" isn't a human, the "world" cannot have desires. And the world may not need saving; however, if humans are as selfish as I think, there will probably come a time where the world does need saving - or at least a time where humans will have to make significant changes in the way they live so that the world will continue to be a habitable place for humans and many other species of life.



It seems to me that we all suffer, and that suffering is something worth limiting or reducing when possible. Therefore, we could at least attempt to reduce the suffering of each other. Sounds like a reasonable 'ought' for the species, help one another out, be nice to one another, don't hurt people, that sort of thing.

How is humanity an ideal?

Humanity refers to all living human beings.

So, there are individuals, and also humanity. Just there are individual blue whales,

As for humanity and purpose, some people may attempt to place a purpose over the whole race, but this does not seem to be a necessary condition for using the term humanity.

You said it yourself - humanity is a term refering to all of the human individuals. Is the term blue whale a secular religion or mythology?

Why are these traits mutually exclusive?

Except that our species is capable of destroying life on this planet.

As the "world" isn't a human, the "world" cannot have desires. And the world may not need saving; however, if humans are as selfish as I think, there will probably come a time where the world does need saving - or at least a time where humans will have to make significant changes in the way they live so that the world will continue to be a habitable place for humans and many other species of life.

It seems to me that we all suffer, and that suffering is something worth limiting or reducing when possible.

Therefore, we could at least attempt to reduce the suffering of each other.

Sounds like a reasonable 'ought' for the species,

be nice to one another, don't hurt people, that sort of thing.

It groups all people as one but at the same time not all people are one identity are they?

Exactly. It groups and condenses all individuals as being one identity when in actuality clearly they are not.

But unlike whales in zoology or biology through labeling it just doesn't stop their with people in contrast

This super identity over people known as "humanity" then comes up with universal rights, entitlements, values, expressions of worth, regulations, restrictions, varios posturings, evaluations, categorizations and so on.

You will find many dictatorial forms of purpose in markets, governments, religions and so on.

Most of them oppressive and sinister of course.

As I said before with whales we just use labels and words that is all.

With people we use goals, beliefs, dictatorial categorizations and so on along with labels in contrast.

Why aren't they?

That only describes us as very destructive and dangerous.

That doesn't entail us a special privilege or right.

That doesn't make us unique. ( Stupid maybe.)

If you admit that then you would also know that the cosmos is indifferent and uncaring being totally unconcerned about our plight not to mention it is unrational having no desire in being rationalized.

The irony of this is that if the destruction of the world by our own species does come about it will come out of our "reason" which has no reason to exist in the first place other than the crazed existential fears that we have brought onto ourselves.

Suffering, destruction and extinction is cosmic.

It is a futile or useless effort in limiting or reducing it.

Never going to happen. Besides were too busy exploiting each other selfishly anyways.

Sounds like a absurd one to me.

Unrealistic.