Hi all,

This, systems approach to reality, this wholistic approach actually transforms the thinking, in a sense restructuring the mind. One's philosophy if it is not already based on this relatively new approach, after its introduction one's philosophy will of necessity change.

The old reductionist method of science is not to be cast away, as the two approaches in a sense compliment one another. In one it is understood that the parts constitute whole. In the systems approach it is understood that the whole determines the behaviour and perhaps the structure of its parts.

Imagine a perspective where duality is over come, where it is seen to be self-evident that subject and object can never be considered separately, where the yin and the yang are not separate opposite qualites but behaviours of one system, the Tao is unity, systems within systems in its complexity.

Einstein was forceful in removeing for us the duality of our understanding when he expressed time, space and gravity as one, matter and energy as one, mind and body as one, this is the new frontier. The disparate state of our environment may have cleared the cognitive waters for us enabling us to embrace this new understanding, but why could we not see the truth of these things earlier? That is a question folks!

To kick this off, what transformations in our thinking are going to result from the knowledge that duality is overcome, that duality is not reality? :eek:



Where there are no flowers there are no bees, where there are no bees there are no flowers---------coevolution!
The Hindu net of gems, Schopenhaur's, simultaneous ariseing!

How might coevolution apply to the existence of man,in that great relational net, what are the most apparent inter- relationships linking man to the world at large? Is water not part of what it is to be a fish----------------come folks, I am fishing here!



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Metaphysics: The Dynamic Unity of Reality

I am truly a neophyte when it comes to all matters philosophical, and quite new to this forum, so please excuse my humble beginnings, and picking up discussions that appear to have been over several months ago...I have some catching up to do.

I think duality comes naturally to humans - ebb and tide, wax and wane, night and day, left and right. Maybe it has to do with our bilateral symmetry. Who knows - if we had evolved with three hands, eyes, and ears, perhaps we would have a tendency toward a triumvirate categorization of natural order.

But I think, as an admitted bilateral-symmetricist, that duality represents not discrete opposites with discernable boundaries, but opposite poles of a continuum...
And hey, without duality, there would be no Star Wars (and I loves the Star Wars...).

I do not think my (current) bipolar view of natural order necessarily interferes with a sense of connection with my surroundings (whether social, biological, planetary, or universal). I guess I thought the interconnectedness of all things was kind of a no-brainer even for 20th century humans, Western or no. I don't mean to trivialize the significance religious relics have had (are having) on the course of many societies, but when we're talking about thinking people, I believe there's not much dissention on the point. Am I missing something? Or someone?

Lync,:p

:)Welcome Lync, it is good to have you with us, interesting first post, if it is indeed your first post. My feelings in pondering these new insights of science and philosophy, is of the nature of thinking there is a bases for a new mythology/religion here. Its appeal not to the absurd but to insights gained through reason.

I think with the matter of duality the attitude should not be either/or, as a functional reality, duality it is, but also realizing that there is no totality in fact for us to observe, thus we are all parts of something larger than ourselves.

:)Sensory deprivation if nothing else, should make one aware that context is all important, for without it the indivdual self-destructs, in one sense we are at one with our environment, yet through apparent reality we are the duality of subject and object, a contridiction of terms.

I have less trouble with religion now that I understand that it is an emotional response, anti-intellectual really. This is a lot of peoples response to the insecurity of wonder, they do not wonder, they know that a supernatural father watches over his sheep---------lol!!

:)The business of the unity of all things being a no brainer, well a lot of people fall into this catagory. There is also a difference between intellectually understanding this concept and feeling it, still further, to act it out as one's reality. Is this not the stuff of a spiritual insight, surely it is, surely it is part of understanding the world we live in, as all mythology was intended to do according to its state of knowledge at any given time,