@chap9898,
chap9898;172720 wrote:First, if peace of mind is one's ultimate goal, then it would seem that one should commit suicide as quickly and painlessly as possible...
This doesn't follow. Suicide cannot
give piece of mind since a successful attempt would
destroy the mind.
chap9898;172720 wrote:...since continuing to live can only disturb one's mind, without any compensating benefit.
I can't figure how this could be correct in any sense. How'd you come to this conclusion?
chap9898;172720 wrote:Second, the thesis that pleasure consists simply of the absence of pain (that is, that pleasure is synonymous with peace of mind) appears to be contradicted by the fact that positive feelings (such as euphoria) and negative feelings (such as physical pain) appear to be caused by different brain chemicals and processes. Thus, it appears that pleasure and pain are in some ways independent of each other.
This is interesting. The absence of pain does not necessarily equate to the presence of pleasure; although, I'd say that such a state (absence of pain only) could be called a "degree" towards, or of, pleasure.
chap9898;172720 wrote:Can any of you provide effective counterarguments in favor of negative hedonism?
Not really, except as a side note to say I've never quite heard it termed this way. I believe that being happy (and in this I mean the relative absence of pain while experiencing a more pleasurable disposition) is a worthy goal. Obviously, pleasure comes from many sources and endeavors, not necessarily the lascivious, gluttonous or debaucherous sources most people instantly equate the term 'pleasure' with.
Thanks