Nudity and most sex scenes in typical Hollywood movies is / are pretty innocuous. Porn is a different story when it comes to kids' exposure: it completely dissociates sex from relationships, it can arouse children, and most importantly it has been associated with sexual and relationship dysfunction during adulthood.

I got you, a baby boom, as in the sixties. Are we that basic in our ethical thinking, are we still driven by urges rather than by logic?

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No sorry but your reply is bailed in straw. Im talking about our own inhibitions, our own allowances, we never censor for children, we censor for our own ethical reasons. If you knew a certain Chanel was showing gratuitous sex, the other violence, what would your feelings be about watching it with a mixed audience? Your actually saying its OK for kids to watch someones get stabbed rather than they watch a sex scene. I think you should be asking yourself more questions.

I censor for my grandchildren on the internet, and on TV. The mixed audience of adults has nothing to do with it. If mixed adults and children, I would not let the children watch extreme violence or explicit sex. I did not say that it is all right for children to watch a stabbing, nor to watch an explicit sex scene. What makes you think I would choose the one or the other? I would censor both. For children, Straw-man.

What about sex do you feel the need to censor? Besides the dysfuntional relationships during adulthood theory, I don't quite understand what parents shelter children from porn for.

For all you parents who shelter children from sex, what exactly are you censoring? The view of the sexual organs penis and vagina, or is it something more (I'm supposing it is something more)? Why is there this stigma attached to sex (I'm speaking in regards to consentual sex)? It seems so silly to me.

From something they are not old enough to understand,

and which might very well filghten them as an act of violence.

And, as I said, I think there is a value in the innocence of young children. Why should we let them watch explicit sex, anyway?

The connection between pornography and violence has always been a spurious one; although some correlations can be made in the extremes, no causal factor's ever panned out.

Porn has been associated with sexual and relationship dysfunction during adulthood? Haha, really? I guess I'm an oddity - it seems to have improved my sex life!

It's very likely that a child is not old enough to understand many things - that's what learning is all about! Then, as the child ages and learns, s/he will understand things!



Not familiar with the word "filghten", but if you meant "frighten", how would sex frighten them? Once again, I'm not speaking about sex with violence. Rape, I could see, having a negative influence. The child may begin believing it is ok to compromise others physically and emotionally, which is obviously not what we would want to teach them. But I'm talking about consentual sex.


So, then, we're keeping the children sheltered to appease our own desires? We want them to be innocent, basically without knowledge of the world, so that we can view them as human beings incapable of wrong-doing. I'm sure having these sheltered children juxtaposed with the malicious violence we often see in the world helps restore some hope in humanity. But, eh, this doesn't sit well with me.

As for Jimmy - what if he is jerking off once, twice, three times a day to porn? What if he begins this at the age of twelve or thirteen, which is not uncommon? That's a great deal of porn to adsorb by the age of eighteen.

I'm a big fan of porn, I think it can be great. But today we are saturated with the stuff, often to the point of becoming desensitized to the material. And the same is true of the violence. Through these video games et al, kids are in part desensitized to violence.

Is it me or has our moral values been confused by general or Victorian standards. Why is it reasonable to let kids watch the most horrendous violence but not the act of sex? We are allowed sociable to watch someones head get chopped off but not that disgusting act of a man and women actually doing it..urghhh. What is it in our psyche or values that decides certain reprehensible act are for public consumption but less violent acts are scorned at.

This has turned from a comparison to a witch hunt. Im not condoning or condemning porn. Sex in general is classified as porn, the act observed, is porn. Can you imagine seeing the act in any form, on any screen as anything other than porn? You invent the romantic scene , a loving caring relationship , both parties willing and freely entering into this physical act and prepared to share this moment. What would it be classified as? im in no doubt. Now take two street fighters prepared to kick ship out of each other for the cameras, whose going to condemn or classify it as obscene?

I see gratuitous violence displayed on a regular basis in fiction and for real in the news , Ive never seen the equal in sexual matters. This is not about defending children's innocence, its about societies strange anomalies on matters of public decency.

No witch-hunt that I can see. But you seem to be committing the either-or fallacy. Both explicit sex, and gratuitous and gory violence should not be seen by children, and it seems to me that children should be prevented, as far as possible, from seeing either. It is not a matter of choosing the one or the other.

Why are you proposing what should happen as opposed to commenting on what happens and why? If you dont want your kids to see either your not in the minority, in fact your expressing the majority view and well done. This is not about your judgement but the observed phenomena we see in society and attempting to see the reasoning why humans act in this manner.

People reason that it is not good for children to watch either explicit sex or severe violence. And, that is why people censor both so as to prevent the children from seeing either.

Oh my but they dont, thats my point.

I don't know who "they" are. I do (for my grandchildren) and so do their parents.

The point here is to discover why pornography and sex in the media is taboo, yet violence is acceptable and even glorified. They are certainly not both regarded as being equally obscene. Look at the rating systems for films and video games, for example.