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Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2009 06:01 pm
Blue laws. Blue laws are laws influenced by religion. They give our law book a touch of "morality". Do you think these laws are correct?

Before you discuss, keep in mind that Scandinavia is a country with no blue laws. That country has one of the greatest governments and society in the world. However, there was a time when mothers could sell there daughters to sexual things. Like, pornography and prostitution. Damn is Scandinavia's economy thriving, though!
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2009 06:12 pm
@Quinn phil,
Way back in the days of yore, the law and morality were almost the same. As time passed, a separation occurred. In many ways this is good, as it allows for individuality and variety.
I think porn should remain legal. By adults, for adults. But I could argue the other side, for there are bad things about taking the sacredness (secrecy) out of sex. Sex becomes a toy. A religious view of sex generally takes sex more seriously, acknowledges it power. The MTV view of sex is petty, and perhaps makes the life of young people more difficult. They play with fire, thinking it's just Pepsi.

Both sides have their point, but I prefer to err on the side of freedom.
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2009 06:28 pm
@Quinn phil,
Quinn;112492 wrote:
Blue laws. Blue laws are laws influenced by religion. They give our law book a touch of "morality". Do you think these laws are correct?


Wouldn't it depend on the particular law? Suppose one blue law were a law which prohibits rape. Wouldn't you be in favor of it even if it were a blue law?
 
Reconstructo
 
Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2009 06:34 pm
@Quinn phil,
I always thought of blue laws as laws regarding pornography. The concept appears to be broader than that. The prohibition on rape, however, does not seem to be a blue law but just a law.

A blue law is a type of law, typically found in the United States, designed to enforce religious standards, particularly the observance of Sunday as a day of worship or rest, and a restriction on Sunday shopping. Most have been repealed, have been declared unconstitutional, or are simply unenforced, although prohibitions on the sale of alcoholic beverages, and occasionally almost all commerce, on Sundays are still enforced in many areas. Blue laws often prohibit an activity only during certain hours and there are usually exceptions to the prohibition of commerce, like grocery and drug stores. In some places blue laws may be enforced due to religious principles, but others are retained as a matter of tradition or out of convenience.[1]
 
Pyrrho
 
Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 03:27 pm
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;112502 wrote:
Wouldn't it depend on the particular law? Suppose one blue law were a law which prohibits rape. Wouldn't you be in favor of it even if it were a blue law?


Given the unsatisfactory explanation for what a "blue law" is in the post to which you responded, your question may seem fine, but do you seriously regard laws against rape as "blue laws"?
 
Emil
 
Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 03:35 pm
@Quinn phil,
Quinn;112492 wrote:
Blue laws. Blue laws are laws influenced by religion. They give our law book a touch of "morality". Do you think these laws are correct?

Before you discuss, keep in mind that Scandinavia is a country with no blue laws. That country has one of the greatest governments and society in the world. However, there was a time when mothers could sell there daughters to sexual things. Like, pornography and prostitution. Damn is Scandinavia's economy thriving, though!


I happen to live in Scandinavia. Do you have any sources for these claims? Not to mention that there is no country called "Scandinavia". Scandinavia is a large area in northern Europe including Denmark, Sweden, Norway and sometimes others too. Wikipedia.

For those that don't know what blue laws here, Wiki has a useful article on them.

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Pyrrho;114966 wrote:
Given the unsatisfactory explanation for what a "blue law" is in the post to which you responded, your question may seem fine, but do you seriously regard laws against rape as "blue laws"?


[INDENT] "A blue law is a type of law, typically found in the United States, designed to enforce religious standards, particularly the observance of Sunday as a day of worship or rest, and a restriction on Sunday shopping." (Wiki)
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It would be kinda odd to believe that laws against rape are blue laws, would it not?
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 03:43 pm
@Pyrrho,
Pyrrho;114966 wrote:
Given the unsatisfactory explanation for what a "blue law" is in the post to which you responded, your question may seem fine, but do you seriously regard laws against rape as "blue laws"?


No, of course not. But I would have to see the particular law.
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Fri 26 Feb, 2010 08:36 pm
@Quinn phil,
Quinn;112492 wrote:
Blue laws. Blue laws are laws influenced by religion. They give our law book a touch of "morality". Do you think these laws are correct?
Some of the basics of blue laws still holds to our modern times. We still make laws alligned to the 10 commandments (tbh dunno much about other blue laws)

Don't think I would use the term "correct" compared to "still valid" ? Wich I largely would say uhmm....mjaaerhmm.
 
Emil
 
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2010 12:01 am
@HexHammer,
HexHammer;133096 wrote:
Some of the basics of blue laws still holds to our modern times. We still make laws alligned to the 10 commandments (tbh dunno much about other blue laws)

Don't think I would use the term "correct" compared to "still valid" ? Wich I largely would say uhmm....mjaaerhmm.


For some reason people continue to make this claim. Perhaps because they think or want to believe that even if christianity isn't true, then at least something good came out of it.

If you look up the 10 commandments, as you should when you make such silly claims, then you will not find that the majority of them are in alignment with actual laws in the western world (Europe, the US, Canada, Australia, etc.).

Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Number 6 and 8 are aligned with actual laws.
9 is to some extent e.g. in court rooms it is illegal to lie.
3 is perhaps reflected by some old blasphemy laws though these are seldom used now a days.
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2010 12:29 am
@Emil,
Emil;137421 wrote:
For some reason people continue to make this claim. Perhaps because they think or want to believe that even if christianity isn't true, then at least something good came out of it.

If you look up the 10 commandments, as you should when you make such silly claims, then you will not find that the majority of them are in alignment with actual laws in the western world (Europe, the US, Canada, Australia, etc.).

Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Number 6 and 8 are aligned with actual laws.
9 is to some extent e.g. in court rooms it is illegal to lie.
3 is perhaps reflected by some old blasphemy laws though these are seldom used now a days.
What I meant, was "some" of the 10 commandments, not all of them.
 
Emil
 
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2010 07:43 am
@HexHammer,
HexHammer;137425 wrote:
What I meant, was "some" of the 10 commandments, not all of them.


But why mention the 10 commandments at all if it is really only 2 or in best case 3 of them that are aligned with modern laws? Clearly the two clear cases of alignment are not anything spectacular. All societies have such laws against murdering and stealing to my knowledge, and modern societies having them has nothing to do with the 10 commandments.
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2010 07:51 am
@Emil,
Emil;137489 wrote:
But why mention the 10 commandments at all if it is really only 2 or in best case 3 of them that are aligned with modern laws? Clearly the two clear cases of alignment are not anything spectacular. All societies have such laws against murdering and stealing to my knowledge, and modern societies having them has nothing to do with the 10 commandments.
KO! Emil 1 - Hex 0
Ouch! You got me!
 
 

 
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