Is it not mere an idea, o materialist? It's just that we are taught that we should think that no one will be abused by our actions. Had we been taught to neglect other, that we shouldn't pay attention to their suffering because they belong to, say, inferior race, we wouldn't even think of them. That would be another kind of morality, if morality is a set of beliefs, as thy definition implies that to be.
But when we kill them OURSELVES, it is absolutely another situation. The very sight of suffering, of blood, surely are different from the idea that we should think of others. This demands way more brutality that just signing an order.


I am not arguing with this. My point was that Hitler, if he wasn't an insane, could not have done all those things like killing children, old people etc., if he'd had to do that with his own hands, so to say This was done just because there is always an army of slaves whcih is ready to fullfill every command.

We may have a certain morality because we have a set of beliefs, like Jews are inferior. But the morality is not that set of beliefs, since I can certainly believe that certain people are inferior, and not treat them as Hitler treated the Jews.

The thing is that Hitler probably could have killed people with his hands. The human animal is built to be able to kill other human animals, and the type only affects the difficulty of getting it to happen.

The problem is that Hitler did not only hold the idea that Jews belong to inferior race but also that they deserve to be treated not like humans. I may believe they are inferior yet think it is still bad to treat them like that, just as it is obvious for us that animals are somewhat inferior to humans but this itself is not the cause to treat them with violence.


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Really? Canst thou easily kill a human being?
Surely all organisms have so-called mechanisms of self-defence yet when they apply them in practice they start feeling excited, not calm which seems to me to be unpleasant feelings. But that's not all: those mechanisms start working only when someone is attacking an animal. Is it not evident that to kill a defenceless child or an old man is brutal even for beasts? Surely this not that mechanism thou art talking about.

But to believe that someone, or something else, in inferior is a belief about what is true or what is false.

But to believe that such people or things deserve to be treated in a certain way, or ought to be treated in a certain way, is not a belief about what is true or false, it is a belief about what should be done to such inferior beings.

So those are two very different kinds of beliefs. One is a belief about what is a matter of fact. The other is a belief about a matter of morality. And the latter does not follow from the former. There is a profound difference between what is the case, and what ought to be the case.

It would be that easy for a social structure designed to make me willing to kill to make me that way. And I'm fairly sure I could kill that easily if I believed in the rightness of the killing. I've actually thought about this a bit in the case of the hypothetical of a serial killer, or similarly dangerous person. And if you convince me that the old person, or the child are active serial killers, I am fairly sure that I would kill them. It would not be pleasant, but I never claimed it would be. Just that most human beings could do it in the right context.

To-day is the 4th of June, the 20th anniversary of suppression of Tian an men demonstration.
Those rulers, organisators and heads every time are being considered to be in guilt of such action. We curse Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. making from them monsters. However, I personally do not see great difference between them and modern teenagers who play strategies on PC, they also have maps, calculations, cold reasoning etc. They do not usually see the consequences of their decisions unlike the executors: soldiers, policemen... Those are deemed to be not guilty because they obey orders they cannot choose. However, these are they who kill them and this are they who have to sacrifice their inner peace and compassion to other beings. To me namely these things are immoral, not blind decisions of the heads. In fact, we do not need to obey the decrees of an insane. Who are more guilty in your eyes, friends, and why.
One remark: I am against any punishments at all and I don't want you to suggest that I desire to sue anyone.