The structure of Conscience & its relation to the inner life

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Reply Tue 19 May, 2009 07:59 pm
The roots of the word conscience are "together" and "knowing." There are two parts to every conscience: the reflective conscience (which does the knowing) and the directive conscience (which tells us to get our act together.) These two parts of ourselves [- reflections upon our conduct, and our hypocrisy-avoidance - which directs us to live what we believe, to practice what we preach --] are brought together by our conscienceSelf.

The roles we play in the socio-economic, social/psychological, everyday world - e.g., waiter, barber, teacher, manager, parent, etc. - I refer to as our self. The self is observable. The inner strengths are often not so visible - but come to the fore during a crisis.

A genius is in a continual state of crisis, so to speak, in that s/he gets her power all the time. When asked their secret great men and women of science, of art, of sports, frequently respond the same way: "Anyone can do it who doesn't do anything else day and night.

"I keep the problem continuously before my eyes" they say - whether the "problem" is composing new music, hitting a ball more accurately, finding a new winning strategy, or a new model of cosmology.

[Let's here define a "saint" as a "genius at goodness." Such a person lives deeply and compassionately. A saint puts his whole power, all his resources, into his own goodness. He has an active and sensitive conscience.]

The conscience tells us, as R. S. Hartman explains in this quote: "you must be a co-knower of your Self in order to be your Self, i.e., you must identify your extrinsic self with your intrinsic Self, and at the same time identify your Self with everyone. Conscience makes you one with everybody. When you have done something wrong, even though nobody was there and nobody saw you, afterward you feel guilty and (feel) as if everybody knows what you have done."

If we trace our ancestry back far enough and see the evolution that resulted in the self we have today we may come to realize that we were once fishes - or at lease we may come to appreciate that we are all cousins, since the population of our planet was much smaller years ago. When we come to know ourselves we realize that we are related to other lives and we are grateful for the contribution they have made to our own flourishing.


Guilt is a tension that arises when (the actions of) our outer self does not match the Self-ideal we have (of what we might be, and to what we want to aspire). Our directive-conscience gets us to take steps to reduce that tension, to live what we believe, to become what we are capable of being.


I'd like to know your thoughts on these topics.
 
salima
 
Reply Wed 27 May, 2009 03:29 am
@deepthot,
are you saying that our conscience is uneasy when we do something against what we believe to be ethical or moral? it could be that we are doing something the whole world would approve of but we feel is wrong. i think that is what it means to me...and instead of speaking plainly, since most people cant hear it anyway, i think it resorts to using other ways to try and attract our attention-like giving us a headache or the hives, causing depression and maybe mental imbalances as well.

would you say the conscience is the same as what has been called the 'inner voice' which we are supposed to hear when we are silent and no longer paying attention to the sounds in the world outside? it is a guiding force at our center? except sadly most people are asleep at the wheel.

sorry, this is more questions than thoughts...
 
deepthot
 
Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 04:06 pm
@salima,
salima;65208 wrote:
are you saying that our conscience is uneasy when we do something against what we believe to be ethical or moral? it could be that we are doing something the whole world would approve of but we feel is wrong. i think that is what it means to me...and instead of speaking plainly, since most people cant hear it anyway, i think it resorts to using other ways to try and attract our attention-like giving us a headache or the hives, causing depression and maybe mental imbalances as well.

would you say the conscience is the same as what has been called the 'inner voice' which we are supposed to hear when we are silent and no longer paying attention to the sounds in the world outside? it is a guiding force at our center? except sadly most people are asleep at the wheel.

sorry, this is more questions than thoughts...


You ask: "are you saying that our conscience is uneasy when we do something against what we believe to be ethical or moral?"

YES.

Guilt - the bad kind, the kind that says: You deserve to be punished! -- has been known to cause psychosomatic symptoms.

You further ask: "would you say the conscience is the same as what has been called the 'inner voice' "

YES. It has been called that. And it is very much like an inner voice.
 
 

 
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