Can we justify "Justice"?

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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 02:55 pm
This is one of the things I'm Curious about.

Alot of people say they act for "Justice". Many of them do thing that most people would say is absolutely horrible. Can you justify executing a murderer, even if it makes yourself a murderer?

Now I'm just throwing thoughts around for others to pick up but...

Who has the right to deal "Justice"?

What is "Justice", exactly?

What do you think?
 
Holiday20310401
 
Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 04:43 pm
@CuriousReed,
"If he who loves good what is it" - Plato, Symposium.
 
Fido
 
Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 04:56 pm
@CuriousReed,
CuriousReed wrote:
This is one of the things I'm Curious about.

Alot of people say they act for "Justice". Many of them do thing that most people would say is absolutely horrible. Can you justify executing a murderer, even if it makes yourself a murderer?

Now I'm just throwing thoughts around for others to pick up but...

Who has the right to deal "Justice"?

What is "Justice", exactly?

What do you think?

Justice exactly is a form of relationship, a moral form, a thing of measures, but ultimately agreed upon, consented to...

Justice justifies itself...Injustice requires justification... Victors justice is a justification..

No one deals justice... Some times a judge is agreed upon by the parties to a dispute, but ultimately the parties need to agree with what is decided.. It used to be, that in relation to some wrong, that family groups would get together and work our guilt and punishment, usually trying to buy off the guilt of the guilty, paying blood money if necessary... But if it was necessary for a person to die to satisfy justice, no one but their own would do the deed, like Orestes with his mother so that no one else would bring blood guilt and vengeance upon themselves...So, in that sense,each group had to agree as to what justice required, and to the penalty which was delivered as it were in the home of ones friends, so that only ones own would judge and execute...

But Justice in every instance is different, and so it can never be defined except in the most general terms... We all need it, and will all die for the want of it, but until it kills no one can say what want of it will kill... Where nature is plentiful people can endure more injustice... But; if we make it a priority understanding its necessity we will try to give justice in all affairs, not because people have the ability to demand it, as the poor and powerless never have; but because we recognize it is essential to any community, that communnities exist to support rights and deliver justice, and that is the making or unmaking of communities...

What Socrates is said to have said is illustrative: He answered the question when there would be justice in Athens with; there will be justice in Athen when those not injured by injustice are as indignant as those who are... We should all be indignant at injustice... As a human community we should appoint ourselves judges, and recognize that when people die before their time it is injustice that kills them, and we should be outraged...gtgo
 
xXKanpekiXx
 
Reply Tue 27 Jan, 2009 12:40 pm
@Fido,
Fido wrote:
Justice exactly is a form of relationship, a moral form, a thing of measures, but ultimately agreed upon, consented to...

Justice justifies itself...Injustice requires justification... Victors justice is a justification..
 
 

 
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