Is Life like a Greek tragedy?

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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 06:29 am
Some say life is like a Greek tragedy, our doom apparent to all from the
first scene. The script lying there on the table for anyone astute enough to read. Some feel we have work to do in this life left over from the one before.And those whom the gods take kindly to, they give a lot of pain, so
that it will move them along faster to that place where they meant to be....
I only know that we are each dealt a hand, and most of us seem to play it
and few of us think to say "I dont want these cards " or "Could you deal again" Are they some things we must learn early on, which if not learn then hold us up in the next stage?
 
boagie
 
Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 08:14 am
@damavava,
damavava,

Greek tragedy is an the expression of the human condition.I remember a statement by Schopenhaur which states,"The more intelligent you are,the more knowledgeable you become,the more you increase your sorrow." I believe this,the duller the intelligence the more superfical the wounds inflected by the human condition.Life is not unfair,neither is it fair,it just is,and that is a Greek tragedy,the source of all sorrow is temporality,and to be care,in a realm of indifference,this is tragedy.


"I ask Hank Williams how lonely does get,that was a long time ago,he has not answered yet." From the tower of song, L Cohen
 
damavava
 
Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2007 03:04 pm
@damavava,
Thank you Boagie your answer satisfy my hunger!
 
Fido
 
Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 05:48 pm
@damavava,
damavava wrote:
Some say life is like a Greek tragedy, our doom apparent to all from the
first scene. The script lying there on the table for anyone astute enough to read. Some feel we have work to do in this life left over from the one before.And those whom the gods take kindly to, they give a lot of pain, so
that it will move them along faster to that place where they meant to be....
I only know that we are each dealt a hand, and most of us seem to play it
and few of us think to say "I dont want these cards " or "Could you deal again" Are they some things we must learn early on, which if not learn then hold us up in the next stage?


Our lives are like a Greek tragedy in this sense: We are either like one or the other of the two types of anti heroes, or like or unlike Prometheius who was too unlike humans to be truly tragic. In the case of Promethius, when we do, knowing and accepting the consequences because we can see the future then we do as Gods. If we do as Oedipus, or Orestes then we are doing, either, not knowing what we do, or knowing what we do -and doing with a hope to escape consequences.
 
l0ck
 
Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 08:05 pm
@damavava,
"When it was over, all I could think about was how this entire notion of oneself, what we are, is just this logical structure, a place to momentarily house all the abstractions. It was a time to become conscious, to give form and coherence to the mystery, and I had been a part of that. It was a gift. Life was raging all around me and every moment was magical. I loved all the people, dealing with all the contradictory impulses - that's what I loved the most, connecting with the people. Looking back, that's all that really mattered."

"The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room."

"It's like you come onto this planet with a crayon box. Now, you may get the 8-pak, or you may get the 16-pak, but it's all in what you do with the crayons--the colors-- that you're given. Now don't worry about coloring inside the lines or outside the lines. I say, color outside the lines! Color right off the page! Don't box me in."

those are all great quotes from the movie "Waking Life" which as of right now in my opinion have very little to do with your post but i still felt like it was necessary to post for some reason

I think physically the entire sequence of events, the entire array of time, is already predetermined. Effluxion of time and freewill are illusion and are of finite magnitude. The absolute must express these qualities so we can absorb even more qualities and ultimately reach complete self-realization. If your going through conflict you are learning, look at your enemies as lessons, because that is all they are- obstacles.
Fear is there for you to overcome, find opposition in your life.
Conflict condenses and releases energy from mass and you in turn absorb it and become it and it effects your entire reality from that point on.
This entire process is apart of becoming whole and self-realized.
 
cjames phil
 
Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 10:34 pm
@damavava,
We must realize that we are not the body we have, the things we have and so on. This is all Ego stuff. The meaning of life is to become self-realized and one with God (whatever God you choose to believe in ). Anything that happens in our life, happens for a reason.
 
boagie
 
Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 11:24 pm
@cjames phil,
cjames wrote:
We must realize that we are not the body we have, the things we have and so on. This is all Ego stuff. The meaning of life is to become self-realized and one with God (whatever God you choose to believe in ). Anything that happens in our life, happens for a reason.


cjames,

I know I am going to reget this but,how do you know this? Please explain how you come to such a conclusion,if we are not to conclude it to be the babble it appears to be.
 
cjames phil
 
Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 06:43 am
@boagie,
I think this is a conclusion you have to make yourself. The answer lies within.

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/index.html

I recommend you to read some of his great books on various topics such as Metaphysic, Yoga, Spiritual Practice etc.

This short book by Sri Swami Sivanandaji Maharaj is also excellent:
http://sivanandaonline.org/graphics/ebooks/swami_sivanandaji/downnload/god_exists.pdf
 
boagie
 
Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 08:11 am
@cjames phil,
cjames wrote:
We must realize that we are not the body we have, the things we have and so on. This is all Ego stuff. The meaning of life is to become self-realized and one with God (whatever God you choose to believe in ). Anything that happens in our life, happens for a reason.


cjames,Smile

I am somewhat familar with the Upanishads,the major difference between other religions and Hindusim is that Hindusim is psychologically enterpreted."Anything that happens in our life,happens for a reason." This seems to me unfounded and an insult to those whom starve to death in this world.If indeed something of the nature of this statement is found in the Upanishads,it would be equally unfounded.Early in the long history of the Upanishads it was recognized that all the gods,all the demons are within the individual,a psychological statement.This site however seems to be the place for unfounded statements, becomeing very much the norm."The meaning of life is to become self-realized and one with god." Again unfounded and outrageous.By this I think you are inferring that meaning can be found in the objective world,please explain in a rational way how you see this as a possiablity.There is not one statement here that has a foundation.Be that as it may,how do these statements relate to life as a Greek tragedy?
 
cjames phil
 
Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 11:29 am
@boagie,
You are right Bogie, that was badly formulated by me. Just let me think it over, and I can post a proper message sometime?

Thanks for pointing it out Smile
 
 

 
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