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Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 05:18 pm
Truth or Dare?

Which would you choose?

What or who are you trying to prove?

Why are we afraid less of the swear than the dare?
(Are we afriad less of the truth than the achievment?)

Why do you do things you are dared to?
(Why do we dare?)

Do you think this is connected to youth?
(That to do the dare proves your man hood?)
(Herculean task?)

Do we need danger and or trial to prove our selves?
 
platorepublic
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 05:38 pm
@sometime sun,
Truth or Dare? I seriously could do either effortlessly.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 07:41 pm
@platorepublic,
platorepublic;160995 wrote:
Truth or Dare? I seriously could do either effortlessly.

I dare you to tell me the truth.
(Had to)Smile
 
platorepublic
 
Reply Fri 7 May, 2010 03:51 am
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;161043 wrote:
I dare you to tell me the truth.
(Had to)Smile

The truth is to dare.
 
xelzaar
 
Reply Sat 8 May, 2010 10:42 pm
@sometime sun,
I dare myself to tell the truth.

I'm chronically dysfunctional.

Not because I'm an artist (the excuse that I've been using all my life) but due to the fact that what I see in life just doesn't make any sense. And there's nothing that can stop my mind from thinking this way.

Well, I said it.

Doesn't make me feel any better though.

---------- Post added 05-09-2010 at 02:43 PM ----------

By the way, this is what I look like. Really.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Sun 9 May, 2010 03:52 pm
@platorepublic,
platorepublic;161173 wrote:
The truth is to dare.

The truth is to dare to prove itself.
The truth is there to be proven.

---------- Post added 05-09-2010 at 10:53 PM ----------

xelzaar;161985 wrote:
I dare myself to tell the truth.

I'm chronically dysfunctional.

Not because I'm an artist (the excuse that I've been using all my life) but due to the fact that what I see in life just doesn't make any sense. And there's nothing that can stop my mind from thinking this way.

Well, I said it.

Doesn't make me feel any better though.

---------- Post added 05-09-2010 at 02:43 PM ----------

By the way, this is what I look like. Really.

Yes we must stop making the same old excuses mustn't we.

You look really cute.
 
xelzaar
 
Reply Tue 11 May, 2010 10:14 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;162219 wrote:
The truth is to dare to prove itself.
The truth is there to be proven.

---------- Post added 05-09-2010 at 10:53 PM ----------


Yes we must stop making the same old excuses mustn't we.

You look really cute.


Thank you. I try my best. So, is that what you look like? Some kind of floral ball of plasma?
 
bmcreider
 
Reply Wed 12 May, 2010 12:53 am
@sometime sun,
I choose truth, trying to prove to myself, subconsciously to those whose opinions I value, that I deserve respect. Usually I do ok, strangely enough.

The dare involves an uncontrollable risk, whereas the truth can be framed accordingly.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Wed 12 May, 2010 07:51 pm
@bmcreider,
bmcreider;163315 wrote:
I choose truth, trying to prove to myself, subconsciously to those whose opinions I value, that I deserve respect. Usually I do ok, strangely enough.

The dare involves an uncontrollable risk, whereas the truth can be framed accordingly.

What is more proof worthy a word or an action?

And the truth is fraught with risk as well.

Begs the question is the truth only controllable by the lie?
and all lies are very risky as well?
 
bmcreider
 
Reply Thu 13 May, 2010 12:43 am
@sometime sun,
Doesn't the size of the lie determine the size of the risk?

Same for truth, I suppose?

Truth is controllable by lying, but also omission, which I see as technically different.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Thu 13 May, 2010 04:07 am
@bmcreider,
bmcreider;163776 wrote:
Doesn't the size of the lie determine the size of the risk?

Same for truth, I suppose?

Truth is controllable by lying, but also omission, which I see as technically different.

I ma glad you brought that up, I would have not remembered the lie or truth of omission and will think about a response for later, but in the mean time would say both a lie and a truth as you said has a condition, has a consequence, has an action the omission is trying to avoid both these and avoid action as well, it is the ultimate in the action-less, and I happen to think that even if a truth is a truth doe snot mean it cannot still have a bad reaction.
So would have to conclude that the lie or truth of omission is beneficial as it simply does not hurt people where there need not be hurt.
It is the higher truths such as this such as 'do no harm' becomes the deciding factor in whether and when total admission total disclosure and truth is not needed and one is better of for being ignorant.
They will always be truths but if they do not achieve a positive than they may as well be a lie. (or is this last sentence a question?)
Can a truth ever not be a truth?
Can a truth ever be better left off un-ushered?
Is ignorance a higher form of actionable or truth?
Or is ignorance the unactionable?
 
bmcreider
 
Reply Thu 13 May, 2010 11:15 am
@sometime sun,
"They say" that some things are better left unsaid...

But sometimes the truth hurts...
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Thu 13 May, 2010 11:30 am
@bmcreider,
bmcreider;163904 wrote:
"They say" that some things are better left unsaid...

But sometimes the truth hurts...

Thanks for reminding sometimes there is an over abundance of information and or action that because so drawn out we miss the simple truth such as you have said.
In other words, yes that is what I meant.

(but there is a little more to what I said also)

---------- Post added 05-13-2010 at 06:33 PM ----------

The simple truth is the easiest to keep and to avoid.
 
bmcreider
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 11:10 am
@sometime sun,
The simple truth bit is true, I suppose because it's simple Wink.

I don't believe ignorance is a higher form, but I like to think about the other stuff you said.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 11:14 am
@bmcreider,
bmcreider;164298 wrote:
The simple truth bit is true, I suppose because it's simple Wink.

I don't believe ignorance is a higher form, but I like to think about the other stuff you said.

Ignorance may not be 'higher' but it can surly be safer and therefore more secure.
Even if it will never know self assurance.

Good to have you here or is that good to have you hear.Smile
 
mark noble
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2010 01:55 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;160991 wrote:
Truth or Dare?

Which would you choose?

What or who are you trying to prove?

Why are we afraid less of the swear than the dare?
(Are we afriad less of the truth than the achievment?)

Why do you do things you are dared to?
(Why do we dare?)

Do you think this is connected to youth?
(That to do the dare proves your man hood?)
(Herculean task?)

Do we need danger and or trial to prove our selves?


Hi sun,

Always Truth.

Prove - Everything.

I am not afraid.

I never dare nor am dared.

Not youth. Ego.

Why need I prove myself? My pedestals are long gone.

Thank you sun, hope this helps. fare well.

Mark...
 
 

 
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