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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 12:39 pm
(i thought this could go intot politics, but voting does not necessarily have anything to do with politics)

Do you vote? Why?

Should everyone vote? Why?

Do you not vote? Why?

Should no one vote? Why?
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 12:49 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;139969 wrote:
(i thought this could go intot politics, but voting does not necessarily have anything to do with politics)

Do you vote? Why?

Should everyone vote? Why?

Do you not vote? Why?

Should no one vote? Why?
Don't vote anymore, politician are riddled with lies, with a vote I can't stop the war in Iraq, which to me shouldn't have taken place in the first place.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 01:04 pm
@HexHammer,
HexHammer;139972 wrote:
Don't vote anymore, politician are riddled with lies, with a vote I can't stop the war in Iraq, which to me shouldn't have taken place in the first place.

It shouldn't have taken place, but perhaps it needed to?
Absolutely right i say, we all voted against the war, million man march and it still happened.
So i cant help think it must have needed to happen.
I still think personally that once you turn 18 if you have not been to jail you should be forced to vote.
It would probably cause chaos because some parties would then come into power that are not equipped to handle it.
But with the majority behind them, they will learn quick.
 
jack phil
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 02:13 pm
@sometime sun,
The US is not a democracy, but a republic. It is less important for the citizens to vote for career politicians than it is for the citizens to run against the career politicians. (there are of course, exceptions to every rule).

The notion of living life "separate from", as if the expert have it handled and citizens need not concern themselves, is why the country has fallen apart. Sure, bad people do bad things, and many good people have been shot.

I don't wish to point the finger, but it always seems like the past was a tragic comedy whence we learn from our mistakes.

I guess that is my only real advice. To learn from your mistakes.

I registered people to vote. Obama turns out to be worse than Bush, and I registered young voters, ie the people that voted for him (and I did as well).

Then I organized people to fight against the policies the Obama admin was calling for. Of course, the people that have not learned from their mistakes will still say things like, "Oh, those crazy republicans" etc.

Now I try and lead a rather simple, yet hopefully perfect life. I do not have much of a timeline figured out, but that this is essential to competing against the politicians and the philosophers and the scientists seems obvious. I don;t know if I will ever have the chance to run against them, but Thomas Paine and Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton are all men I admire and they never sought public office.

If that does not work out, I'll have to come up with something else.

Facts: Bush and Obama administration continue institutionalized war crimes, which have not seen the light of day since Nazi Germany. Will you go down in history as a sympathizer? No need to be Tom Cruise from Valkyrie, but know that of the millions of unemployed from the dissipating cities out there are good people-- and those in office are not. Take that to your grave.

I am uncomfortable living the "comfortable" life.
 
Khethil
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 03:28 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;139969 wrote:
(i thought this could go intot politics, but voting does not necessarily have anything to do with politics)

Do you vote? Why?

Should everyone vote? Why?

Do you not vote? Why?

Should no one vote? Why?


Yes, I vote. For the moment I, out of disappointment or despair relinquish my only means of being heard (no matter how small); in so doing, I disconnect myself from my community and by this indifference - this adolescent display of my own misery, anger or self pity - show just how much I care not for the communal direction of myself or my fellows. Very much like the child who by thread of holding his breath, tries to get what he wants.

To not vote, out of anger or disenfranchisement, is to surrender perhaps the one small means by which any difference can be had.
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 03:32 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;139969 wrote:
(i thought this could go intot politics, but voting does not necessarily have anything to do with politics)

Do you vote? Why?

Should everyone vote? Why?

Do you not vote? Why?

Should no one vote? Why?


I would prefer that as few people vote as possible, since I cannot stop people from casting votes that oppose mind, but every vote that opposes mine, dilutes my vote. And, of course, I believe my vote is correct. So, the fewer votes, the fewer opposing votes, and that makes my vote count more.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 04:14 pm
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;140011 wrote:
I would prefer that as few people vote as possible, since I cannot stop people from casting votes that oppose mind, but every vote that opposes mine, dilutes my vote. And, of course, I believe my vote is correct. So, the fewer votes, the fewer opposing votes, and that makes my vote count more.

But it sounds as if You end up counting less.
 
Khethil
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 05:15 pm
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;140011 wrote:
I would prefer that as few people vote as possible, since I cannot stop people from casting votes that oppose mind, but every vote that opposes mine, dilutes my vote. And, of course, I believe my vote is correct. So, the fewer votes, the fewer opposing votes, and that makes my vote count more.


Ya gotta love this kind of honesty!
 
Jebediah
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 05:36 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;139969 wrote:

Do you vote? Why?


Usually. I like to have at least some idea about who I'm voting for. Unfortunately I find that for most of the lesser candidates there is no information to be found other than perhaps a short bio. So for state level candidates do you skip voting or just vote the party line? I've done both but I couldn't say what's better.
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Should everyone vote? Why?
No. I feel like you shouldn't vote unless you have some idea what you are voting about (as long as that's possible). This is why apathetic people shouldn't vote, and why I'm glad we don't have Australia's system where you have to pay a fine if you don't show up.
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Tue 16 Mar, 2010 03:54 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun;139977 wrote:
It shouldn't have taken place, but perhaps it needed to?
Absolutely right i say, we all voted against the war, million man march and it still happened.
So i cant help think it must have needed to happen.
I still think personally that once you turn 18 if you have not been to jail you should be forced to vote.
It would probably cause chaos because some parties would then come into power that are not equipped to handle it.
But with the majority behind them, they will learn quick.
Don't see a good reason to wage these wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Forcing people to vote is imo a very bad idea, you'll force people ignorent about the system to vote.
 
 

 
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