@kennethamy,
kennethamy;153973 wrote:But to say that people are not logical is to apply logic to people already.
Agreed, that it is a logical judgement of the situation; but what can we logically do with it???...
One may logically draw certain conclusion as to the justice of any situation, but when those logical conclusions are used to build a social form like law, or government then one has frozen a dynnamic situation suitable for dynamic people in fluid situations, and certainly, it may work for a time as our government worked for a time, but eventually some will find their way around it, and others will be trapped in a form they cannot change to meet their needs...People build social forms out of their understanding of human behavior and human needs, and like all knowledge, the understanding grows as new facts are discovered...
If we say love is the relationship, the moral form, and that marriage is the social form built out of the ideal of love, then we can easily see the problem all laid our... People often fall back on their form when the relationship is stressed, or failing... Some times, people's conception of the social forms and the sorts of rules that entails destroys the relationship before it has had a chance to grow, and other times, if people are in love it does not matter in the least if they are married, or that they are married, because the love relationship entralls them... People build their social forms out of a logical understanding of the moral form, but people grow and change out of their forms the way a crab can outgrow his shell because they adapt to their reality as social forms cannot without great effort be made to adapt..