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@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?

More members?

More mind trafic?

More of each other?

What of advertisment?

Are we doing just fine enough?

I don't know. Maybe porn would bring more? Maybe discounted car insurance? Or how about making them feel like they need to hurry up and get involved so they can actually make it in before the Philo movie comes out? No I don't want Keanu to play me. Whoa... Maybe you could just give them the impression they will get wealthy if they sign up, then just refer to it after they sign up as the wealth of philosophy.

Are you the owner of the forum?

@Krumple,

Krumple;131272 wrote:

I don't know. Maybe porn would bring more? Maybe discounted car insurance? Or how about making them feel like they need to hurry up and get involved so they can actually make it in before the Philo movie comes out? No I don't want Keanu to play me. Whoa... Maybe you could just give them the impression they will get wealthy if they sign up, then just refer to it after they sign up as the wealth of philosophy.

Are you the owner of the forum?

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@sometime sun,

These questions are always worthy of consideration and discussion by the real owners of the forum, the Members who make up the community, without which a forum is only a piece of software sitting on a server.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?

More members?

More mind trafic?

More of each other?

What of advertisment?

Are we doing just fine enough?

Do you just want more participation, or do you want good participation? You can increase the quantity by encouraging people to post any random thought that enters their heads, but I think there is more than enough of that already.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?

More members?

More mind trafic?

More of each other?

What of advertisment?

Are we doing just fine enough?

The owner has said that the traffic here will more than double here soon. New software is being implemented, and many new features will be added. And I'm supposing he is going to be advertising more.

Patience young padawan, patience. Robert has a dream - just give him time to make that dream a reality.

@Zetherin,

That is actually sort of scary Zeth, however I do hope that if a load of new people come through, I will find at least some of them entertaining enough to converse with.

@GoshisDead,

GoshisDead;131429 wrote:

That is actually sort of scary Zeth, however I do hope that if a load of new people come through, I will find at least some of them entertaining enough to converse with.

It is, actually. It will be a whole new place here if the member base actually increases by as much Robert predicts it will.

@Pyrrho,

Pyrrho;131410 wrote:

Do you just want more participation, or do you want good participation? You can increase the quantity by encouraging people to post any random thought that enters their heads, but I think there is more than enough of that already.

Ok then how do we encourage more 'good' participation?
Surly not by branding someone a fool and discouraging them, even discounting them altogether.

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Variety is the spice of life.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131489 wrote:

Surly not by branding someone a fool and discouraging them, even discounting them altogether.

There is a zen saying, "A smart fox can learn a lot from a fool, but a fool can learn nothing from a smart fox."

When trying to attract good posters you will get just as many bad posters. Those who find someone a good poster someone else might think is a bad one. I'm sure the same is true for the other point of view.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?

More members?

More mind trafic?

More of each other?

What of advertisment?

Are we doing just fine enough?

I love the idea of ten times as many posters. I don't know how to make that happen.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?

More members?

More mind trafic?

More of each other?

What of advertisment?

Are we doing just fine enough?

If the forum could get more relevance to the every day into the discussion, instead of purely rethorical arguments, and add some sience to it.

Don't think the majority of outsiders are interested in empty metaphors, which they can't relate to.

@HexHammer,

HexHammer;140684 wrote:

If the forum could get more relevance to the every day into the discussion, instead of purely rethorical arguments, and add some sience to it.

Don't think the majority of outsiders are interested in empty metaphors, which they can't relate to.

I personally like using metaphors to help explain something in a different context. People are strange about how they view certain subjects but if you take that same subject matter and place it in a different context they can begin to see it from a new perspective. This is why I will never stop using metaphors even if you hate reading them, all I can suggest is not to read any posts by me if they bother you that much.

@Pyrrho,

Pyrrho;131410 wrote:

Do you just want more participation, or do you want good participation? You can increase the quantity by encouraging people to post any random thought that enters their heads, but I think there is more than enough of that already.

Indeed. I have already mentioned Gresham's Law.

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Krumple;140686 wrote:

I personally like using metaphors to help explain something in a different context. People are strange about how they view certain subjects but if you take that same subject matter and place it in a different context they can begin to see it from a new perspective. This is why I will never stop using metaphors even if you hate reading them, all I can suggest is not to read any posts by me if they bother you that much.

He said, "empty metaphors". Illustrative analogies are fine, and every philosopher has used them. But they should be instructive, not misleading or obfuscating. If they are, they cloud, rather than clarify. See, for example, Plato's cave metaphor, or Wittgenstein's Beetle in the Box metaphor. I, myself, have invented the "sausage machine" metaphor for Kant's epistemology, and no one thinks I have any imagination at all.

@kennethamy,

kennethamy;140693 wrote:

He said, "empty metaphors". Illustrative analogies are fine, and every philosopher has used them. But they should be instructive, not misleading or obfuscating. If they are, they cloud, rather than clarify. See, for example, Plato's cave metaphor, or Wittgenstein's Beetle in the Box metaphor. I, myself, have invented the "sausage machine" metaphor for Kant's epistemology, and no one thinks I have any imagination at all.

Well it is hard to tell when someone is being all encompassing or specific when they use a term like empty. The way I read it he gave no impression that a metaphor could be used in a productive manor. So I am left assuming he meant all metaphors are empty. I'll stand by that impression until he corrects it if it requires correcting.

@Krumple,

Krumple;140686 wrote:

I personally like using metaphors to help explain something in a different context. People are strange about how they view certain subjects but if you take that same subject matter and place it in a different context they can begin to see it from a new perspective. This is why I will never stop using metaphors even if you hate reading them, all I can suggest is not to read any posts by me if they bother you that much.

:bigsmile:we could also discuss in Latintinl but we would loose some members. I believe in different uses of language. For me English is my second language; Spanish the 3rd and American somewhere in between,

Still I have my dictionary at hand for difficult concepts... I wish I D

PSH.:Glasses:

@Krumple,

Krumple;140686 wrote:

I personally like using metaphors to help explain something in a different context. People are strange about how they view certain subjects but if you take that same subject matter and place it in a different context they can begin to see it from a new perspective. This is why I will never stop using metaphors even if you hate reading them, all I can suggest is not to read any posts by me if they bother you that much.

I too use metaphors, but when some post only consist of metaphors, when the person think, ask and state things in metaphors, things are getting out of hand.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;131261 wrote:

How can we encourage more participation?
More members? More mind trafic? More of each other? What of advertisment?
Are we doing just fine enough?

Hello Sun, if what we offer here is truth, others will gravitate here. If not, they won't. If we sincerely care and what we offer has others natural interests at heart, the forum will grow with less argument in such a way others will be able to speak without being thought ignorant offering questions that can be answered in ways that have real utility in their individual lives. As far as advertisers, lets hope we don't have to resort to that. It commercializes the overall message the forum offers and somehow cheapens it; like a ambulance chasing attorney handing out his business card at funeral parlors. It could be allowed but stringent qualifications I hope would be in order. :bigsmile:

William

@William,

UH! Btw!! ..the 24h rule of making new posts, sucks! Imo it should be 8h max, or less.

24h just seems too farfeched. It's kinda a bottleneck hindering a healthy traffic.

@sometime sun,

HERE at this internet space, I would rather want to wait for a well-thought out and lucid post than be subjected to hackneyed replies made from rote. There is too much of that tripe on the internet today.
We also must remember that even though English is the official and shared language of the forum, that its Members do not share the same time-zone as well.

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