What things are we that everyone is?

What things are we that everyone is?

Other than the physical aspects we are all thinkers.

Lost1

What is a thinker?

Are we all poets?
Are we all philosophers?
Are we all music makers?
Are we all beautiful?
Just to mention a few possibles.

But what is it that we are?

Is it only us all that take it away from all of us?
Is this something we all are, the denial of all?
(surly all are beautiful, are possible of beauty, does it only count if the other sees it rather than just the owner? the mirror cracked)

Looking for the unification rather than the separation.

What by proclaiming yourself as can you therefore no more deny any other of a self given and recieved position?

crack bang fizzle pop (can you ding once you have popped?)
Are we all listened to or for?

Is this a matter of 'could be as' rather than actually are?

So will expand the question for those of us all who stretch;
What things are we that everyone could be? Born as with the as capasity?
What things are all of us possible of?
(possessing the possibility)
No should yet in sight,
unless could is a should?

What is a thinker?

Are we all poets?
Are we all philosophers?
Are we all music makers?
Are we all beautiful?
Just to mention a few possibles.

But what is it that we are?

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Within each of us we are all of the above. The different degrees of each is what makes us each unique, which is for the best, the world could not exist if each human was exactly alike.

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Looking for the unification rather than the separation.

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The historical results attempts at unification has been failure. 13K years and we're still as un-unified as ever.

Would not a better idea to attempt be to embrace and ever celabrate that which makes us different?

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What by proclaiming yourself as can you therefore no more deny any other of a self given and recieved position?[QUOTE}]

I need clarity on that question. Are you asking me what is the one thing I can proclaim myself to be that I know everyone else to also be?

If yes, I can not, for we can only truly speak for ourselves. Attempting to speak for others is always impure.

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What things are we that everyone could be? Born as with the as capasity?

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All things human--all that is considered good and all that is considered bad we each have the capasity of being. It's our choices which help or hinder ourselves and/or others.

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What things are all of us possible of?
(possessing the possibility)?

We all possess the ability to attempt anything we can think of trying -- there are mental and physical levels which make some more likely to succeed or not. It's always best to wish, try, and fail then it is to wish, not try and guarantee to have failed.

Never depend upon someone else to do your wishes for you.

Never ask someone else to love and respect you until you love and respect yourself.

Lost1

All things human--all that is considered good and all that is considered bad we each have the capasity of being. It's our choices which help or hinder ourselves and/or others.

Lost1

which is for the best, the world could not exist if each human was exactly alike.

The historical results attempts at unification has been failure. 13K years and we're still as un-unified as ever.

Would not a better idea to attempt be to embrace and ever celabrate that which makes us different?

I need clarity on that question. Are you asking me what is the one thing I can proclaim myself to be that I know everyone else to also be?

If yes, I can not, for we can only truly speak for ourselves. Attempting to speak for others is always impure.

All things human--all that is considered good and all that is considered bad we each have the capasity of being. It's our choices which help or hinder ourselves and/or others.

We all possess the ability to attempt anything we can think of trying -- there are mental and physical levels which make some more likely to succeed or not. It's always best to wish, try, and fail then it is to wish, not try and guarantee to have failed.

Never depend upon someone else to do your wishes for you.

Never ask someone else to love and respect you until you love and respect yourself.

Opinions on good and bad clash. How can we live to be good or bad if we don't know what good and bad are?

All things human--all that is considered good and all that is considered bad we each have the capasity of being. It's our choices which help or hinder ourselves and/or others.

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So you are saying that the capasity is choice. Judgement even?
What if, and it is justa what if, what if we have no choice, none of us.
Or we only have the choice that is afforded by that ever always other?
Are we judged or do we judge?

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Yes, we all have the capisity to choose each of our actions and reactions, and we all decided for ourself (judge) if we believe those actions/reactions to be in our own best interest.

Sorry, since there is no doubt that our lives are all about choice it's difficult for me to answer "What if we have no choice?" Only answer I keep thinking is ... that can't possibly be a fact, if that were a fact we would never need to make a choice.

I don't understand the..."Or we only have the choice that is afforded by that ever always other?"

We both judge and are judged. It's a given on a shared planet.

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Are we possessed or do we possess? Are our wishes ruled by our limitations or are they ruled by our freedoms? Are we limited or are we free?

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We are both for each of those questions. We are possessed by our thoughts which we possess in turn. Our wishes are ruled by our wishes to master our limitations and to use our freedoms wisely. We are limited by that which we can not change - we are free to choice how we deal with said limitations.

Never ask someone else to love and respect you until you love and respect yourself.

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Why not? Even if i agree with your truth does not mean it is the only one.

Why not? That's actually more difficult to put into words than I would have thought prior to being asked the question.

My smartA answer would be..."Because the results of seeking it outside of self suck." Hate to admit but that's about the best I can do for someone (not necessarily you) who does not yet know the rewards of having reached the level of self understanding.

Up to that point the goodness of being loved and respected by someone else are short lived. There is always the return to the questions that amount to ...I do not love and respect myself and I do not know why.

After that point, someone else loving and respecting your isn't necessary, but metaphorically speaking it is the icing on one already delicious cake.

Lost1

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Like the moon, the stars, and the sun.

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My answer lies within your question. If you wish to be good or bad you simply choose which one, and live by your defination(s) of that which is Good or that which is Bad.

If you have made the choose to live by what someone else has taught you is good and what is bad and are attempting to live by their defination of what is good/bad - you have choosen not to define good/bad and likely are not being true to yourself. Let me add if that is working out well for you, you should keep doing just that.

If there could actually be a universal consensus on that is bad; and that bad could all be eliminated, the lessor end of that which the consensus thought of as good would become bad. It's in our nature to work towards more knowledge, more understanding, and for the majority to make life better.

I have a question for you -- have you never made the decision that something you have been taught of as good isn't?

Why not? That's actually more difficult to put into words than I would have thought prior to being asked the question.

My smartA answer would be..."Because the results of seeking it outside of self suck." Hate to admit but that's about the best I can do for someone (not necessarily you) who does not yet know the rewards of having reached the level of self understanding.

Up to that point the goodness of being loved and respected by someone else are short lived. There is always the return to the questions that amount to ...I do not love and respect myself and I do not know why.

After that point, someone else loving and respecting your isn't necessary, but metaphorically speaking it is the icing on one already delicious cake.

Lost1

We all shine on.
Like the moon, the stars, and the sun.