I imagine some of the more religious minded philosophers didn't drink. Buddhism is against intoxicating substances I think.

Of course, most people drink.

I would suppose most if not all Islamic philosophers such as Mohammad Azadpur and Fazlur Rahman (to name a few) do not drink. The evidence is simply the fact that as an Islamic scholar (or even a Muslim as I understand), you are not allowed to drink. I looked up some verses in the Koran, and one says, "O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination, Of Satan's handiwork: Eschew such (abomination) that ye may prosper. (Al Maeda; 5:90)"

I stated what follows privately to someone, and thought some of you here might be amused by it.
[INDENT][INDENT]All philosophers drink. Most, if not all, philosophers drink wine, at least occasionally. Usually, it is more than just occasionally. This has been the case as long as there have been philosophers. Here you can read a very famous ancient work in which the proper method of doing philosophy is illustrated:

Online Library of Liberty - SYMPOSIUM. - The Dialogues of Plato, vol. 1

Socrates, who is virtually universally admired by philosophers everywhere, drank quite heavily, according to the accounts by Plato. He is a model of what a philosopher is. All philosophers drink. There are no exceptions.[/INDENT][/INDENT]The question is, can anyone name a famous philosopher who did not drink? In order to qualify, the person must be known primarily as a philosopher, not merely someone who dabbled in ideas associated with philosophy, and one will need to provide some sort of evidence that the person did not drink. So, people who were primarily scientists or theologians or anything else other than philosophers do not count.

It should be obvious why this is in the lounge.

I don't believe Wittgenstein or G. E. Moore drank adult beverages. Most philosophers, like most people, have an occasional AB. If that is what you have in mind by"drinking".

By "drink", I mean "consume a beverage or beverages containing alcohol". No specific quantity or frequency is required. Of course, if one wishes to be like Socrates, then drinking quite a lot will be required!

What are the sources of your information that Wittgenstein and G.E. Moore did not drink?

A scholar of Islam is not the same thing as a philosopher. And besides, being Islamic does not preclude the possibility of not following all of the rules that others dictate; Omar Khayy?m springs to mind:[INDENT][INDENT]A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread--and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness--
Oh, Wilderness were Paradise enow![/INDENT][/INDENT]Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But even he would not count anyway, as he was not primarily a philosopher.

Remember, the claim does not apply to anyone who is not primarily a philosopher. Rather than get into a squabble about what it means to be a philosopher, which would be a contentious issue, I will simply require that most ordinary reference works refer to the person as a philosopher first in their descriptions, not as a theologian and philosopher, or a mathematician and philosopher, or anything else and philosopher.

Does that mean that a scholar of Christianity is not the same thing as a philosopher either? St Thomas Aquinas springs to mind. He is touted as one of the greatest of the medieval philosopher-theologians. He was deeply involved in the religious aspects of his time (hell, the guy is a saint), and he was also heavily involved in philosophical debates in logic, metaphysics, epistemology, philosophy of mind, moral philosophy, as well as the philosophy of religion. Likewise, Al-Kindi, the "philosopher of the Arabs," was renown in his day and even now for his translations and interpretations of Aristotle and the incorporation of those elements into his own particular philosophies and he was a devout Muslim.

And honestly, if you state that "being Islamic does not preclude the possibility of not following all the rules that others dictate," which would most likely be a critique of an Islamic tenet, then being a philosopher does not preclude the possibly of not drinking. It seems to me that you are looking for a very rough universal quantifier, not a sometimes on-sometimes off existential quantifier. But a rough universal quantifier (i.e. which admits the off chance that there is at least one who is not of all) is almost always a existential quantifier (there exists such an x that...) in any respect anyway. As far as Omar Khayyam is concerned, he may not be the best person to cite, seeing as though it is debatable whether or not he was even Muslim. He mentions God? but so do atheists.


Ok, then as an example of Al-Kindi, he wrote, "The Quantity of Books of Aristotle and What is Required for the Acquisition of Philosophy." I don't want to get into a squabble either about what it means to be a philosopher, because excluding philosophers that also theologize or vice versa is absurd to say the least.

I drink. I couldn't study philosophy without it.

I drink. I couldn't study philosophy without it. There is only so much crap I can cram in my brain before I need to drink to remove it. I think the main problem with many popular philosophers is that they did not drink enough or at all. Maybe if they had a drink here and there they would have realized that life is too serious to take seriously all the time.

Drink can be used as a stress buster, it's nice to have one now and again but I used to drink a lot, I gave it up for my health.

Has that girl escaped yet Caroline? I cant sleep thinking about the poor thing.

Lol Xris, no she was trapped in there..........forever!

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