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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:46 pm
[SIZE=+1]Fundamentally changing America is just another way of saying "Marxist Revolution!"[/SIZE]
Vanity | Jan 11, 2010 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 2:26:31 PM by Jim Robinson

Obama says he's bringing fundamental change to America.
Well, America was founded on the concept that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and we established a constitution to defend and preserve those rights and to severely limit the powers of government.

Among our unalienable rights are the rights to Life and Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Also the rights to freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievance. Also the right to keep and bear arms for defense against government tyranny!


These are just some of our most basic fundamental rights. And no other country on earth can make these claims. America IS the land of freedom!


So if you fundamentally change America, what you are really doing is ripping the heart and soul from our country by unconstitutionally expanding government and restricting our basic fundamental freedoms.


Obama is a Marxist. There is absolutely no doubt about that. And his "fundamental change" is actually a Marxist Revolution. An overthrow of our constitutional government by leftist/Marxist means and the total annihilation of our unalienable rights.

He is systematically destroying our capitalist free-market economy and replacing it with a centrally planned and controlled socialist/Marxist style economy. He's nullifying our constitutional protections and depriving us of our unalienable rights. He's scrapping the concept of sovereign state and local governments controlled by the people and setting up a national socialist government designed to control every aspect of our lives.

And he is well on his way to accomplishing his goals. He's found willing accomplices within the corrupt socialist democrat party and the unions they control. Also with the help of the left-leaning universities and laws schools and the public indoctrination centers otherwise known as government schools, and the liberal main stream media and entertainment industries. They have effectively brainwashed the last several generations of our youth and have basically rewritten our history and have eroded away our institutional faith in God and independence and freedom.

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Nameless 23232
 
Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 04:57 pm
@Pythagorean,
Pythagorean;119217 wrote:
[SIZE=+1]Fundamentally changing America is just another way of saying "Marxist Revolution!"[/SIZE]
Vanity | Jan 11, 2010 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 2:26:31 PM by Jim Robinson

Obama says he's bringing fundamental change to America.
Well, America was founded on the concept that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and we established a constitution to defend and preserve those rights and to severely limit the powers of government.

Among our unalienable rights are the rights to Life and Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Also the rights to freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievance. Also the right to keep and bear arms for defense against government tyranny!


These are just some of our most basic fundamental rights. And no other country on earth can make these claims. America IS the land of freedom!


So if you fundamentally change America, what you are really doing is ripping the heart and soul from our country by unconstitutionally expanding government and restricting our basic fundamental freedoms.


Obama is a Marxist. There is absolutely no doubt about that. And his "fundamental change" is actually a Marxist Revolution. An overthrow of our constitutional government by leftist/Marxist means and the total annihilation of our unalienable rights.

He is systematically destroying our capitalist free-market economy and replacing it with a centrally planned and controlled socialist/Marxist style economy. He's nullifying our constitutional protections and depriving us of our unalienable rights. He's scrapping the concept of sovereign state and local governments controlled by the people and setting up a national socialist government designed to control every aspect of our lives.

And he is well on his way to accomplishing his goals. He's found willing accomplices within the corrupt socialist democrat party and the unions they control. Also with the help of the left-leaning universities and laws schools and the public indoctrination centers otherwise known as government schools, and the liberal main stream media and entertainment industries. They have effectively brainwashed the last several generations of our youth and have basically rewritten our history and have eroded away our institutional faith in God and independence and freedom.

Source


This is just Republican baseless propaganda.
 
Aedes
 
Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 09:10 pm
@Pythagorean,
Pythagorean;119217 wrote:
Obama is a Marxist. There is absolutely no doubt about that.
Laughing
How would Marx feel about bailing out private banks and investment companies?
 
Deckard
 
Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 11:05 pm
@Aedes,
Aedes;119297 wrote:
Laughing
How would Marx feel about bailing out private banks and investment companies?


Clearly the bail outs were all part of Marx's evil plan from the start.

:sarcastic:

History repeats itself. Here comes the red scare again. First as tragedy then as farce.
 
xris
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 06:06 am
@Deckard,
"Better dead than red",good job you've still got your guns to blow your own brains out. Id be really interested to hear the thinking behind these claims?
 
jgweed
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:02 am
@Pythagorean,
The linking of Obama with those dreaded Marxists is more political propaganda than an objective comparison, as all the emotionally loaded words and the Constitution-waving indicate to any educated mind.

For example: "He's nullifying our constitutional protections and depriving us of our unalienable rights." No examples are provided, nor does the writer indicate how a sitting President can nullify anything in the Bill of Rights without the acquiescence of both Houses of Congress and especially the Supreme Court.

"He's scrapping the concept of sovereign state and local governments controlled by the people and setting up a national socialist government designed to control every aspect of our lives."

So, not only is Obama a Marxist, but he is also a "national socialist" (read: Nazi), along with---or so one reads---almost all the institutions of American life, from the press to unions to universities and so on.

Now I am concerned with certain trends in all levels of government that tend towards curtailment of individual freedoms by arguing that this is to keep us "safe from terror" or "for our own good" ("Mommism") because people are incapable of taking responsibility for their choices, but just as much a source of concern is this kind of passionate rhetoric from both sides that counterfeits articulated and reasoned discussion of current problems.
 
salima
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:13 am
@Pythagorean,
why read what someone says 'obama says'? why not read what obama said? and not only that, it is what he does that matters.

i must admit i am getting pretty disillusioned with his actions lately, but i havent investigated fully what is going on. all i notice is what makes the headlines, and that is hardly a good way to find out the whole truth. i guess i dont have enough interest in it to look too deep, so i wouldnt want to form an opinion of his political philosophy. it will become apparent in time.
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:27 am
@salima,
salima;119340 wrote:
why read what someone says 'obama says'? why not read what obama said? and not only that, it is what he does that matters.

i must admit i am getting pretty disillusioned with his actions lately, but i havent investigated fully what is going on. all i notice is what makes the headlines, and that is hardly a good way to find out the whole truth. i guess i dont have enough interest in it to look too deep, so i wouldnt want to form an opinion of his political philosophy. it will become apparent in time.


Obama does say many of the things he is reported as saying. In fact, how else would most of us know what he says, since we are not in private communication with him? It is, of course, hyperbole to say that Obama is a Marxist or a fascist. He is, however, much more to the left of (the American) center than any other president we have had.
 
xris
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:27 am
@salima,
The rhetoric appears to be coming from another century, it appears to encourage civil war. If it was in any other context, then it could be classified as sedition. In fact it is sedition?
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:30 am
@xris,
xris;119345 wrote:
The rhetoric appears to be coming from another century, it appears to encourage civil war. If it was in any other context, then it could be classified as sedition. In fact it is sedition?


How can you preface something with, "in fact", and end it with a question mark? What can that mean?
 
xris
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:35 am
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;119346 wrote:
How can you preface something with, "in fact", and end it with a question mark? What can that mean?
Sorry, i was requesting an answer from a question I did not pose.
 
salima
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:40 am
@kennethamy,
kennethamy;119344 wrote:
Obama does say many of the things he is reported as saying. In fact, how else would most of us know what he says, since we are not in private communication with him? It is, of course, hyperbole to say that Obama is a Marxist or a fascist. He is, however, much more to the left of (the American) center than any other president we have had.


what i was getting at was the fact that there wasnt any quote of what obama actually said in this particular article. and too many people dont bother to read the entire transcript of his speeches or listen on tv, they wait til the commentator comes on and says "now here's what obama said,..."

but i dont want to hear any paraphrases of what obama says, i want direct quotes, and the best are videos when he is actually speaking. that is, that is what i would use to determine what he actually said. if i still cared...
 
Pythagorean
 
Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 02:02 pm
@jgweed,
jgweed;119339 wrote:
just as much a source of concern is this kind of passionate rhetoric from both sides that counterfeits articulated and reasoned discussion of current problems.


I posted the article because I think it reveals the deep antagonisms that are currently building across the country. These are strongly held beliefs by the author. Also, if the American economy falters again going forward ( a "double-dip" recession ) we should be informed that these disagreements will intensify even further, if such intensification can be imagined.

I think most of what the author says contains some grain of truth. It would certainly not be surprising to me to discover that former professor of law Obama has had some flirtation, however consequential, with the wide varieties of extant Marxism than are commonly found on college campuses. What I would stress is that the people who hold these positions, the far left, would actually embrace a good deal of these accusations. However, they would put them in a far better light than this adversarial journalist has done, of course.

This truth is that the far left is very proud of their basic anti-Western idealism. What the author says is, in fact, already a fait accompli. And I think most (or a significant number of) Americans understand this. The old Anglo-America which ruled the country was a bible-based community. They were racist and sexist and that part of our history is over. It has given way to a multi-cultural America, that blames the founders for instituting racism. This is no secret. The Constitution does not really hold sway anymore, as I see it. Things have changed.

The author of the article is arguing for a set of rules and standards that only exist in the American past. And they will never be revived. I will be the first to say that the spirit of the Constitution is dead today. The difference is that the left embraces it and the left calls the shots and writes the script of American culture today - whereas the political right is constantly harking back to a time that can never come again. The author of the article and the far right in general, have already lost the "culture wars". They are standing on the losing side of history.
 
 

 
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