In 1-zillion [possibly an exaggeration] years, when we have evolved from stupid humans to advanced, intelligent beings, and we are capable of creating computers that can think and feel and love, then, would these computers be considered alive?

of course, these computers would move, and i guess would be the brains of robots, but, if it could feel everything a human could such as feel fear, love, hate and be able to express free will, would we have to treat it with the same rights as humans, or, would it be like some animal that humans [unfortunately] treat as expendable?

Also, would this type of computer/robot then be exempt from being owned due to the fact that if it were treated as alive, as being owned would be slavery?

would the slavery factor be null and void because, technically, we would be their gods?

just a thought.

In 1-zillion [possibly an exaggeration] years, when we have evolved from stupid humans to advanced, intelligent beings, and we are capable of creating computers that can think and feel and love, then, would these computers be considered alive?

Sorry, you wont. First, because you will be long dead, buried, dusted, atomized, sucked in by a black hole and achieved an unimaginable level of not-being-in-one-pieceness then the universe collapsed. Second, because if time travel to the 50's was possible we would have found that out on the 50's

Personally I think this will never happen, with humans fusing with robots/nanobots and vanishing as species. Winhout humans, there will be nothing to keep the robots from considering each other alive.

Assuming we did create inteligent like us robots before the technology to fuse with then, or we didnt fuse for some reason... I think we probally would make robots with "slave mindsets" on purpose, so they would be clever as a human worker winhout demanding anything, nor possessing emotions that would get in the way of their work. Example: If we made a robot to take care of children, we would probally make it such that it would not get attached to anyone and treat all children equally, but we would also probally give it the capacity to have fun so it could better play with children.

The only reason I can think to make robots that think like us is experimentation. On this case, I dont know exactly how the robot should be treated... they were made experiments, but they think like humans, so its pretty much the same than chosing a baby on birth to be a test subject for life... creating such robots would probally be considered ilegal and unmoral.

Maybe. But luckily by that time humans will have figured out how to go back to time, and I'll be able to go back to the 50s and Rock n' Roll to the Big Bopper.

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Rich

Bummer. My day is ruined :-(

if you could upload you memory and map your brain that could run on a super computer 100%, would it be considered alive, even with you still alive?

i wonder though, if you had your memory & brain mapped and you dies, would the memory and brain mapping [running on a super computer] be you, or at least, would the copy think it was still you? if we do not have a soul, then it would be identicle.

Hi,

I've had a chance to look at humans (inside and outside) and computers (inside and outside). From what I can assure you the two are far from identical :-)

Rich

i wonder though, if you had your memory & brain mapped and you dies, would the memory and brain mapping [running on a super computer] be you, or at least, would the copy think it was still you? if we do not have a soul, then it would be identicle.

Well we are only talking about the mind so the only aspect that matter is their ability to hold minds.

Try separating your mind from your body sometimes and tell me what happens - if you can.

Rich

I do so whenever I dream Otherwise my bones would be dust by now.

Yes, when you dream Consciousness is no longer aware of the physical body.

When I say separate, I mean physically separate. I don't think it can be done and still have a living physical being.

Rich

The mind is not attached to the body, the BRAIN is

OK. Then remove your brain and see what happens to your mind. It might be interesting.

Rich

It goes elsewhere

Brain removal is not necessary for mind-cloning though.

It might. The brain could just be a solid piece of mass that just sits there. But we still have the problem of where the brain came from and why the heck the mind even bothers with it. Just go to sleep and don't wake up and be happy as a mind.

Rich