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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 05:41 pm
If you want to live, you must die to yourself. This is a plain and self evident truth of life. You may not live solely pursuing your base desires. Rather, you must subordinate them to right reason, and your life must be determined by the intellect, not by base desire.

When we are driven solely by desire, we rightly understand the way of life to be "addiction," and addiction is generally bad. The thing to which you are addicted becomes your master, a Master of Puppets, so to speak.

This is especially true with respect to food and drink. Obesity is one of the greatest problems our country now faces, and being obese is a horrible thing. Being obese almost ensures the one who is obese a vast host of health problems, even if it's only later on in life. Heart disease, diabetes, etc...these are all highly preventable diseases, and the chief way to prevent them is by maintaining a normal weight.

Of course, people will offer a variety of excuses for their weight, and some people (many, in fact) will go so far as to say that there's nothing wrong with their weight. They claim that they should be judged not by their outter appearances, but solely by their personality. Hogwash. People don't become overweight overnight. People don't become obese by accident.

Obesity has a root cause: a lifestyle of gluttony. Obesity of itself is not immoral, nor is it even wrong (albeit, it's radically unhealthy). It is, however, a very clear indicator of an immoderate, immoral will.

If, therefore, obesity is the outward sign of immoderation, then one only rightly cases to be overweight when immoderation becomes replaced by moderation, when immoral gluttony becomes replaced by mastery of the self (with respect to food and drink) and a rightly ordered will.

I once weighed about 305 lbs, about a year and a few months ago. I now weigh 191 lbs.

How did I do it, and why am I calling the thread "Aristotle's Diet"?

Aristotle tells us that in order to a virtue, we must do that which is virtuous. If you want to be brave, then do brave deeds. If you want to be chaste, then abstain from unchaste things. In this case, if you want to be moderate, then practice moderation.

First, figure out what your ideal weight is. This is pretty easy to, given a BMI calculator (yes, it's not entirely accurate for some people, but it's a decent guideline, I think). Here's the one that I use: BMI Calculator

Once you figured out your ideal weight, figure out how many calories someone of that ideal weight would consume daily, given the level of activity that you have. You can do this via a calorie calculator like this one: Calorie Calculator

Then, once you've figured it out, consume that number of calories a day.

Alternatively, if the calorie count is too low (because you are so incredibly obese), do this instead:

Figure out how many calories you require to keep yourself up, as you are, and then consume 500 calories less a day (to lose a pound a week) or 1000 calories (one pound is equal to 3500 calories) less a day (to lose 2 pounds a week).

More general advice:

It's a good idea to eat 3-5 meals a day (but the sum of all 3-5 should be equal to the total amount for the day). If you eat 2000 calories a day, eat a meal containing 700 calories, 2 means containing 200, and then a third meal containing 900. Eating more frequently increases your metabolic activity, this increases your caloric requirement, and this consequently will speed up your weight loss.

Work out 3 times a week for at least 30 minutes.

Stop drinking sugary soda, or if you must, drink less of them. A single 12 oz can of most sugar-based soft drinks have anywhere from 120-180 calories. They add up fast. Diet drinks are tasty nowadays, the ones with splenda stand very little chance of giving you cancer. Even if you don't like them at first, you'll like them eventually. It's an acquired taste, but you'll like it eventually.

Switch to whole wheat bread/rice and so forth and so on. They contain less calories, they have more fiber, and they taste better and have a better texture anyways.

Balance out your meat/fried food consumption with larger quanties of vegetables and fruit. Vegetables and fruits contain relatively fewer calories, given the quantity. An entire can of no-salt added Del Monte corn (I think) contains like 210 calories.

Don't forget to account for condiments.

Be wary of fast food and restaurants. I'm not saying that you shouldn't eat there, but if you do, you should at least try accurately to account for the caloric content. You can look up a lot of this stuff online. If you can't find it, be cautious. Restaurants add a lot of butter and whatnot to their food, and even foods that normally might seem ok are actually packed with calories that you wouldn't expect to be there.

Last but not least, be patient. You didn't put on all that weight in a couple months. Don't expect to lose it in a couple months. To lose 50 pounds, expect the process to take anywhere from half a year to a full year.

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Ok! For some reason, the link I posted had messed up. I've fixed the OP.
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 09:41 pm
@Bonaventurian,
Well, that diet may have worked for you, but I can guarantee that it won't work for everyone. Everyone is different. Obesity is not always the fault of the individual. There is something called the "thrifty gene hypothesis" which states that some people are better at storing fat when food is abundant. In other words, they are genetically predisposed to gaining weight. At one time, natural selection probably favored these people, and now today, they have weight issues as a result.

I do have to say that it is good advice to stop drinking all soda in general on a regular basis. Artificial sweeteners may not be loaded with calories, but they have their own drawbacks. Many people suffer from many negative effects from them. For caffeine, it is wiser to drink tea or even coffee.

The point is that no one should really take diet advice from anyone, but their doctor or dietitian. What may be good for one person, may cause serious health problems for another.
 
Bonaventurian
 
Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 10:22 pm
@Bonaventurian,
The., I can gaurantee you that it works for everyone. Whether or not it's "easier" for people to gain weight, it's a biological fact that living organisms require sustenence. It follows, therefore, that fat (being a living tissue) cannot survive without sustenence. If you don't have enough going in to sustain your weight, you -will- lose what you can't sustain. That's just how it works. Weight doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Granted, it may be "harder" for these people to gain weight (slower metabolism or something), but all that this "hardness" amounts to is a decreased caloric need. The answer isn't that we should excuse these people. The answer is that these people need to work out more and eat less even more.

Aristotle tells us that the golden mean is different for each person. What's normal for a body builder is gluttony for a sedentery man. The same holds true of different genetic builds. Immoderation is immoderation. Gluttony is gluttony.

You say that diet soft drinks may cause health problems for some people. So what? Then they shouldn't be drinking soft drinks at all. So some people can't work out? Fine, then they should just cut down on their eating enough to compensate for what the working out would have used up.

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In fine, to all reading, I'm not offering a "diet." I am merely reiterating what is a basic truth of living well, that is, Aristotelian moderation.
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2009 01:44 pm
@Bonaventurian,
Bonaventurian,

Your understanding of diet and how genetics influences is totally flawed. It is not as simple as food goes in, and energy goes out, whether stored or used. Can you figure out why I am currently eating and drinking between 3500-4000 calories a day and still losing weight? Its not like I have been that active over the last month or so. I should be gaining about 5-7 lbs per week, but I am still losing weight. Obviously, there is something else causing this issue, and I have a good idea, but it has nothing to do with food intake. I also know people that have been naturally large their whole life, and struggle to lose weight with exercise while cutting their caloric intake drastically.

My point is, you are not an expert on diet, and you have no clue how genetics and disease can affect something such as the metabolism and weight gain/loss. I am not claiming to be an expert by any means, but I do have a little more than background knowledge on the subject. While I am happy your diet has worked for you, I can guarantee that for others it is not that simple. Genetics plays a major role in how easily people burn off excess fat. Some people's metabolism grinds to a halt when they reduce their caloric intake due to their natural dispositions. Their bodies are just designed to store more energy for when food is scarce, but in today's world, that feature is generally not a good thing. I am not making excuses for anyone; I am just stating a simple feature of human genetic variation. Sure, some people are guilty of being lazy and gluttonous, but not all large people are lazy gluttons.

Honestly, I do not think Aristotle's idea of moderation fully applies to things like diet. Aristotle knew nothing about how genetics affect a person's ability to store or use energy, and thus, it is a wrong application of what Aristotle was talking about. Sure there is something to be said about moderation, but I hardly think that it is the key to living a good life. A healthy, happy life takes much more than moderation.
 
manored
 
Reply Tue 26 May, 2009 01:23 pm
@Bonaventurian,
I think that the best way to prevent health damage from over-weightness is to mantain your agility at the level of at least a normal person: that is, rather than caring for your weight, caring for your strengh, rather than eating less, running more Smile

Im not an especialist either, but I have never heard of people who might get weaker or not improve at all if they start doing more exercises than usually. And, since the body tries to adapt to whatever the person is doing, if you run a lot your body will realize all that weight is getting on the way Smile

I think one must be carefull then doing exercises though, desperate people may push thenselves beyond their limit.
 
pinkpanda
 
Reply Sat 30 May, 2009 04:41 pm
@Bonaventurian,
I also think an important aspect to consider is the number and quality of ingredients in the foods you eat. I try to make it a general rule to not eat something with more than ten ingredients, especially if I can't pronounce an ingredient, that's a pretty clear sign that it's not good for me.
 
manored
 
Reply Sat 30 May, 2009 06:26 pm
@pinkpanda,
pinkpanda;65742 wrote:
I also think an important aspect to consider is the number and quality of ingredients in the foods you eat. I try to make it a general rule to not eat something with more than ten ingredients, especially if I can't pronounce an ingredient, that's a pretty clear sign that it's not good for me.
I dont think something artificial is necessarly bad for health, or at least in a significant manner. I think the best to avoid "self intoxication" is to have a very varied diet... eating a bit of many toxins damages less than eating much of just one Smile
 
 

 
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