The atheists do not have the attention span to listen to fair warnings.
They are too busy satisfying their immediate desires, with no thought on next week, let alone next year.

They only wake up to warnings when the bombs start falling.

I have often wondered what the world would be like if adults had the energy level I see constantly displayed by children at play. Perhaps we see a bit of this energy when we see the old tycoon still struggling for more money and grasping for more power even as death appears eminent.

It appears to me that energy is generated in humans when we are in action and when that action meets certain needs. If we extrapolate from the children and adults at play we might very well conclude that when action is play, energy will continue to be generated.

How do we adults make our actions seem to be play rather than work? Action becomes play when we are creating. Also action becomes energy generating when it fulfills our needs for immortality.

I would claim that play, power, survival, and the need for immortality are the four sources of human energy.

In the beginning of civilization thought and knowledge was regarded as valuable things. However, we have discovered that thought and knowledge can also be dangerous and destructive. Today technology, one of our most touted accomplishments, is often presenting us with daunting dangers. "Therefore, with the growth of technology the human race is faced with tremendous crisis."-David Bohm



A fundamental need of our being is self-activation. The self-activation demanded of me may prove to be without inner friction, i.e. with inner pleasure or it may, contrarily, create inner discord and un-pleasure. The feeling of pleasure with self-activation "is always a feeling of free self-activation".

Economics is a good example of how some sciences handle human relationships. Economics treats humans like objects and ignores there subjective aspects. Humans are treated as two dimensional rather than like a diamond with multiple facets. Economics is a good example of a science that ignores nonlinear problems, i.e. problems not under the lamp-post.

I'm not quite sure what the topic of the thread is. There are a lot of philosophical dogmatisms, but the topic is not really that clear. For example, the threads name is "Isn't our financial crisis fair warning?" But I'm not seeing any connection to that thesis. Post #1 contains at first elements of epistemology (paragraphs one and two) but them mixes into the concept of a "renaissance man" and educational status.

In post #3, you then start talking about "energy" and "activity" All of the topics are very interesting, but I don't know if they all fit together. Topics for separate posts maybe? Still, good thread, just want to know what the primary question is.

To the self-actualizing self-learner who has studied briefly the high points in human history the prospect of ever comprehending the human condition seems overwhelming. Where to begin?