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Reply Mon 13 Apr, 2009 04:06 am
Philosophy Needs a Visceral Connection

The visceral (instinctive, unreasoning, and 'earthy') domain of human reality is not exclusively the domain of intellection but is a partnership with the crude and earthy emotions that are so dominate a part of human experience.

A new manner of thinking was born in Greece in the five centuries BC. This might properly be called the Pagan Period. Webster informs me that a pagan is a follower of a polytheistic religion or one with little or no religion and who delight in sensual pleasures and material goods. Modern day America seems to fulfill at least one aspect of that definition of paganism.

The Pagan Period was followed by what might be called the Catholic Period. The Catholic Period was a millennium in which the Catholic Church dominated Western civilization.

The manner of thinking born in the Pagan Period and nurtured during the Catholic Period might properly be called the philosophical manner of thinking. Philosophy, born in Greece and nurtured during the millennium following, was grounded in the mind/body dichotomy introduced by Descartes under the heavy influence of an overseeing Catholic Church.

I claim that Western philosophical tradition is today at the cusp of adolescence leading into adulthood. This major paradigm shift is constructed on the recognition that we can no longer ground our philosophical attitudes on the mind/body dichotomy and must recognize the validity of the empirical scientific theories centered about the idea of the embodied cognition. This theory can be justified as a result of the technology that makes observation of brain actions observable.

Classical cognitive science assumes that "cognition consists of the application of universal logical and formal rules that govern the manipulation of "internal" mental symbols, symbols that are supposedly capable of representing states of affairs in the "external" world." Classical cognitive science treats mind as a computational program.[/b]

Alan Turing (1937) developed the idea of the human mind acting as a universal computing machine. Further developments of Turing's ideas led to the development that the human brain was conceived as a physical symbol system capable of operating on symbols in a logical fashion. Hence the metaphor 'Mind as Computer' became the rage of the electronic and computer sciences.

The internal/external split characterizing this view illuminates the idea that this computational function can be detached from the body of the organism, which means that any number of contraptions might perform adequately the actions of the human mind.

First generation cognitive science developed a science of cognition constructed around the 'Mind as Computer' metaphor. This was labeled as AI (Artificial Intelligence).

SGCS (Second Generation Cognitive Science) developed a science of cognition constructed around the 'Cognition in the Body' metaphor. Rather than thinking of cognition as a manipulator of symbols, human cognition and our bodies are a gestalt; so integrated as to constitute a functioning unit with properties not derivable by summation of its parts.

Quotes from The Meaning of the Body by Mark Johnson


 
Parapraxis
 
Reply Mon 13 Apr, 2009 11:59 am
@coberst phil,
I'd love to see where the mind/body dichotomy is so prevalent, again teach us oh-wise-master.
 
coberst phil
 
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2009 03:19 am
@Parapraxis,
Parapraxis wrote:
I'd love to see where the mind/body dichotomy is so prevalent, again teach us oh-wise-master.


It is all about us and that is the problem; it encompasses everything that we know. These are matters that we pick up through social osmosis. We absorb it without any thought on intention. The only remedy is to become a self-actualizing self-learner.
 
Poseidon
 
Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2009 04:01 pm
@coberst phil,
The 'mind as computer' idea is intrinsically flawed and this can be easily demonstrated by the manner in which they 'remember' facts.

A computer remembers smaller bits of informantion more easily than larger ones.
A human mind, however remembers larger pieces of information more easily.

When you ask a child to remember the alphabet for the first time, they find it nearly impossible to remember 26 pieces of data. But when you add a tune to the data, it is remembered more easily.

Similarly when swatting for an exam, if you need to remember a list of items, its much much easier if you make up a story around that list. The more assosiations you make with that list the easier it is to remember - paradoxically.

In the same manner, even remembering a 5-digit pin code becomes much easier if you remember the numbers in groups with meanings. eg : 12536 is easier to remember if you note that the number is also 5x5x5 ... 6x6

But having said that, I agree with the notion that philosophy needs to be grounded on a physical level. Especially when we are dealing with the humanities. Ethics for example that tries to contrive characters in examples often makes assumptions that do not gel with psychology. It would be better to base such ideas on real people.
 
manored
 
Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2009 10:08 am
@Poseidon,
Poseidon wrote:
The 'mind as computer' idea is intrinsically flawed and this can be easily demonstrated by the manner in which they 'remember' facts.

A computer remembers smaller bits of informantion more easily than larger ones.
A human mind, however remembers larger pieces of information more easily.

When you ask a child to remember the alphabet for the first time, they find it nearly impossible to remember 26 pieces of data. But when you add a tune to the data, it is remembered more easily.

Similarly when swatting for an exam, if you need to remember a list of items, its much much easier if you make up a story around that list. The more assosiations you make with that list the easier it is to remember - paradoxically.

In the same manner, even remembering a 5-digit pin code becomes much easier if you remember the numbers in groups with meanings. eg : 12536 is easier to remember if you note that the number is also 5x5x5 ... 6x6
This is not quite true. First, a computer remembers both sizes equally well, it just happens that differently from human beings, its capacity is limited, while humans have enough space to never run out of it. Second, these facilities on remembering are caused not by the size of the data, but the amount of copies. Evertime we remember something that memory is modified a bit and copied to some other place of memory. A music calls more attention than just an abstract piece of information and therefore gets copied about more times, and since its composed of several pieces of information there are also greater chances of pieces staying on memory wich will be used to re-make the whole then we remember. A computer would too acess an information faster if it had several copies of it on memory. Also, we lose neurons and pieces of information with then, computers dont lose little pieces of their memory all the time what explains part of why our minds are not that much like then.
 
 

 
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