If there is not enough work to go around then we must be working too much.

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Deckard
 
Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 09:08 am
Any arguments for or against this statement?
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 09:16 am
@Deckard,
bavandongen;108527 wrote:
Any arguments for or against this statement?


Depending on how it is understood, it can be a tautological truism, or it can be false.

It is the first if you define "working too much" as there not being enough work to go around.

But it is the second if we understand "not enough work" as there being less work now than there should be.
 
Deckard
 
Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 05:26 pm
@kennethamy,
Yes it is an ambiguous statement come to think of it. There are also at least two buried premises.

(buried premises)

1) Everyone should contribute to the work of maintaining and improving the world.

2) (Apparently) There is a finite amount of this world maintaining/improving work as evidenced by the fact that some people cannot find work.

(Original statement rephrased)
3) If there is not enough work to go around then those who are working, are working too much.
 
Fido
 
Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 06:24 pm
@Deckard,
richers seed fear in the minds of Americans with the fact that there will only be two people working for every one collecting social security... So what??? One man's ability to produce is ten times what is was only a few years ago, and in some cases has increased a hundred fold since the middle ages...Only twenty percent of the people hold jobs in production and they account for 90% of our exports... All the rest of us who are working are either in government, or finance, or service... Of these all, finance accounts for 90% of the profits, which means that a handful of people sitting on their farts are bleeding the whole rest of working society to death... We might all choose to only work eight hours a week at productive jobs; but the main thing is, if the demand for profit enjoyed by a fraction far distant from the action and the people doing it were denied, none of us would have to hardly hit a lick to survive...The better our technology the more we are forced into slavery or uselessness...People do not just work for their lives, but for the meaning of their live...Our rich have no idea of the storehouse of resentment they fill up further with every layoff...It is all about forcing people back on their capital, having to sell the capital built up by generations just for a few meals and more worry... All those high profits are the wealth of this nation going to a single class of parasites...
 
Deckard
 
Reply Mon 7 Dec, 2009 04:33 am
@Fido,
Fido;108624 wrote:
We might all choose to only work eight hours a week at productive jobs


I'm all for the 6 day weekend! :bigsmile:

Lets at least make it 3. 2010 will be the 70th aniversery of the 2 day weekend! It went nationwide in the united states back in 1940. It's about time we ratchet it up to 3 days.

Just to be clear, I'm for leisure not laziness. There is a difference.
 
de budding
 
Reply Mon 7 Dec, 2009 05:19 am
@Deckard,
Is this the right thread?..
Dan.
 
Deckard
 
Reply Mon 7 Dec, 2009 06:34 am
@de budding,
de_budding;108773 wrote:
Is this the right thread?..
Dan.



Ah, I take your point Dan. New Member Introductions not really the place to start a thread like this.

Starting over,

Hi there this is Deckard. I specialize in minor faux pas. Great forum. Pleased to be here.
 
 

 
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