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Dasein
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 10:41 am
I have been philosophizing my entire life. I have been reading Martin Heidegger for the past 15 years and during that time I have read "Being & Time" and "The History of the Concept of Time" over 70 times. In the beginning I typed "Being & Time" and "The History of the Concept of Time" on my computer because it forced me to slow down and think through what was written. I have also read many of his other books. I read Heidegger because I get "entangled" in just about every other "philosopher's" writing. I opine that the entangling (covering up) started around the time of Plato. I also think that most philosophers haven't made the distinction between being as a thing and be-ing.
Okay - you have a good idea of who I am. Good luck!!
 
EmperorNero
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:25 pm
@Dasein,
Welcome, jim lad. Yarr!

It's talk like a pirate day!
 
Dasein
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:53 pm
@Dasein,
Caroline;91907 wrote:
Yeah i saw your blog, it's called a load of rubbish now because I edited something out of it, why have you called it that please? Pray tell?

Caroline;
I apologize if I have offended anybody. It was not my intent. The word I used is a technical term for the condition I am addressing. Since I am brand new to this forum is it the "Moderator's" job to place a value judgement on the content of a post? See "it's called a load of rubbish" above. I must have missed reading it. I did read the mission statement before I joined and it stated "Philosophy Forum is to build a supportive community of users around the world that will strengthen and enrich it's members guests through open communication, debate, and discussion in the topics of Philosophy". I sincerely believe that is what I am doing.

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Thanks for a hardy welcome, matey! Yarr!!
 
Caroline
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 01:28 pm
@Dasein,
Dasien, please read the faqs at the top of this page, it is a button you click on and we make sure we recommend each member to read them before posting because you will find that any kind of foul language is not allowed as this is a site for young people aswell and we try really hard to keep it clean for them, also parents like to check this site before they allow there teenage son or daughter to enter this site, if they saw something like your blog there I doubt very much we would have many young customers do you?
Thank You.
 
Dasein
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 01:49 pm
@Caroline,
Caroline;
I will be writing a book of the same title. I do technical support for an accounting software program and have been discussing my book with my customers for several years. Everyone of them has told me that not only don't they not find if offensive, they love the title and that they can't wait until I write it. It is a technical term for a condition that I am identifying. You force me to accept your editing my title and changing "the word" to "rubbish" if I want to make a contribution to the Philosophy Forum community.
 
Joe
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 05:52 pm
@Dasein,
tsk tsk Wink


Welcome to The Forum.
 
Fido
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 08:11 pm
@Dasein,
Dasein;91863 wrote:
I have been philosophizing my entire life. I have been reading Martin Heidegger for the past 15 years and during that time I have read "Being & Time" and "The History of the Concept of Time" over 70 times. In the beginning I typed "Being & Time" and "The History of the Concept of Time" on my computer because it forced me to slow down and think through what was written. I have also read many of his other books. I read Heidegger because I get "entangled" in just about every other "philosopher's" writing. I opine that the entangling (covering up) started around the time of Plato. I also think that most philosophers haven't made the distinction between being as a thing and be-ing.
Okay - you have a good idea of who I am. Good luck!!

Reading philosophy is like reading law in that the one does not make one a lawyer any more than the other makes philosophers, but it is hard to be either without reading, except that with philosophy, all subjects are required...
 
NonSum
 
Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2009 07:44 am
@Dasein,
Welcome Dasien,
I too have enjoyed Heidegger's unique slant.

You should be "warned" about this site. There is no freedom of expression allowed here. While it is well set up, and has more than a few intelligent members, it has immoderate, rule fixated, 'moderators' who are intent on imposing ad hoc rules far beyond those mentioned in the FAQ listing. This could have been an excellent forum, but for the domination of small minded rule Nazis, out for no other gain than to enhance their own self-importance.

My own great transgression was to dare to quote from other posts without using quote boxes. Plato would be thrown off this forum, have no doubt about it.

Let's see how long it takes for the moderating gestapo to delete this message(?).
 
Dasein
 
Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2009 08:31 am
@NonSum,
Thank you!! Speaking of Plato - he did warn me about the other residents of the cave. Foolish me. For over 60 years I thought the purpose of Philosophy is to give us a blueprint to uncovering who we are. I too have suffered the wrath of "immoderate, rule fixated, 'moderators' who are intent on imposing ad hoc rules." I received a post from a moderator that said "Yeah i saw your blog, it's called a load of rubbish now because I edited something out of it". I had the audacity to ask if it is part of the moderators job description to place their own value judgement on the content of a post. Instead of answering my question the moderator deflected all attention away from the question by focusing on a single word.
Thank you again for taking the time to give me the "heads up" on the situation. You didn't have to stick your neck out - but - then given who you are, you did have to. LOL Please take a moment to read my blog at Dont Pick Up The Trash.
This causes me to remember the immortal words of William Wallace "Freedom"!

---------- Post added 09-20-2009 at 10:00 AM ----------

"A conclusion is that place where human beings refuse to think past."
Stephen Wright
 
Fido
 
Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2009 05:26 pm
@NonSum,
NonSum;92199 wrote:
Welcome Dasien,
I too have enjoyed Heidegger's unique slant.

You should be "warned" about this site. There is no freedom of expression allowed here. While it is well set up, and has more than a few intelligent members, it has immoderate, rule fixated, 'moderators' who are intent on imposing ad hoc rules far beyond those mentioned in the FAQ listing. This could have been an excellent forum, but for the domination of small minded rule Nazis, out for no other gain than to enhance their own self-importance.

My own great transgression was to dare to quote from other posts without using quote boxes. Plato would be thrown off this forum, have no doubt about it.

Let's see how long it takes for the moderating gestapo to delete this message(?).

There is not complete freedom of method, but freedom of expression is pretty general... You sometime have to express and define your ideas rather than jumping to your conclusions, and then let others be the judge... All petty tyrants like to gig people, and none are worse than those who demand civility where only the truth is ever required... If you feel you have to tell me the truth, fear not for civility or that I will call foul...P.M. me...If I can't count on the truth from people you will be no more good to me than I to you, always having to tippy toe through a mine field of hurt sensitivities... Civility is just a form...Civility is to serve us well, and not we serve it... If we are all correct and polite while the truth languishes, it will call out to God from the earth...What ever disease you are talking about, it is the want of truth that incubates it... We do not have to make of truth a fetish...All we have to do is never let go of it....The first way to make truth false is to sell it... It should sell itself as it usually does, for an honor...

---------- Post added 09-20-2009 at 07:37 PM ----------

Dasein;92210 wrote:
Thank you!! Speaking of Plato - he did warn me about the other residents of the cave. Foolish me. For over 60 years I thought the purpose of Philosophy is to give us a blueprint to uncovering who we are. I too have suffered the wrath of "immoderate, rule fixated, 'moderators' who are intent on imposing ad hoc rules." I received a post from a moderator that said "Yeah i saw your blog, it's called a load of rubbish now because I edited something out of it". I had the audacity to ask if it is part of the moderators job description to place their own value judgement on the content of a post. Instead of answering my question the moderator deflected all attention away from the question by focusing on a single word.
Thank you again for taking the time to give me the "heads up" on the situation. You didn't have to stick your neck out - but - then given who you are, you did have to. LOL Please take a moment to read my blog at Dont Pick Up The Trash.
This causes me to remember the immortal words of William Wallace "Freedom"!



Freedom is a form...It is not worth dying over...It is worth living for....

If you have been thinking for 60 years I am sure you hold the record... At fifty five I doubt I have thought for 6 years all told... I have run a lot of retread ideas through my head until they went flat, but I would not call that thinking on a sunny day...In a sense, to learn how to think, which is also the way to store and communicate knowledge is an uncommon process for most, if we consider it as a conscious act, what we would call reasoning.... ...The thing I like about Heidegger on kant was that he broke the process down, and seemed to agree that knowledge is judgement, and that every concept is a set of judgements which define the object...I guess I like both of those guys even if I doubt that every step is followed in its correct order....Some people fly where other walk... Some simply jump to a whole lot of confusions...And I hope I am not stuffing too many words in either corpses mouth...Take it as a form of expression...
 
Justin
 
Reply Tue 22 Sep, 2009 08:42 am
@Fido,
Dasein;91930 wrote:
Caroline;
I apologize if I have offended anybody. It was not my intent. The word I used is a technical term for the condition I am addressing. Since I am brand new to this forum is it the "Moderator's" job to place a value judgement on the content of a post? See "it's called a load of rubbish" above. I must have missed reading it. I did read the mission statement before I joined and it stated "Philosophy Forum is to build a supportive community of users around the world that will strengthen and enrich it's members guests through open communication, debate, and discussion in the topics of Philosophy". I sincerely believe that is what I am doing.


No offense taken. I've gone ahead and removed some of the post responses that were not exactly warmly welcoming you. I also didn't see an issue with the blog post. Blogs are yours to name what you like. If you choose to use language that's not acceptable in the forums, that's on you because it's your blog. If you post porn or flat out offensive garbage, then that's when moderation should be applied. Aside from that, there should be no censorship of blogs.

NonSum;92199 wrote:
You should be "warned" about this site. There is no freedom of expression allowed here. While it is well set up, and has more than a few intelligent members, it has immoderate, rule fixated, 'moderators' who are intent on imposing ad hoc rules far beyond those mentioned in the FAQ listing. This could have been an excellent forum, but for the domination of small minded rule Nazis, out for no other gain than to enhance their own self-importance.


NonSum, thank you for the warning about this site. Considering that you are a new member I find it very ignorant of you to post such a thing and advise you to go elsewhere and take your attitude with you.

NonSum;92199 wrote:
My own great transgression was to dare to quote from other posts without using quote boxes. Plato would be thrown off this forum, have no doubt about it.

Yes, we have a standard here on text formatting as displayed throughout the forum. You were asked politely to watch the videos showing how to quote because that's the format we use and it's what our members are accustomed to. Of course I don't need to explain this again do I?

NonSum;92199 wrote:
Let's see how long it takes for the moderating gestapo to delete this message(?).


NonSum, take a hike. Go somewhere else where you can do what you wish. This is a free forum and there are rules and we don't need people like you trolling our forums with negativity. So as polite as I can be, YOU ARE BANNED. Now you have a reason to cry.

Furthermore, we have had an issue with moderator abuse lately and this situation is being dealt with. If someone has a problem it's important for them to report the situation directly to myself or use the report function of the site and we will deal with these situations to the best of our ability and in fairness.

Now, if anyone else would like to insult this forum and insult the volunteers who work here and put their time in and give of themselves to keep this forum clean and free from spam and other garbage, speak up so I can whack a mole and you can find another forum. As for the rest of the forum, thanks for being here and thank you for being a productive member of the forum.

Before I forget, warm welcome to you Dasein. Glad you joined us and hope you can look past some of the pessimism that lands on this forum and enjoy your stay.
 
Justin
 
Reply Tue 22 Sep, 2009 07:08 pm
@Justin,
I said pessimism above and Fido sort of ran with it. So we moved those posts and responses to here: Optimism and Pessimism Thread.

Let's keep this forum for introductions and welcomes. I'm going to close this thread and provide links to discussions that have branched out from it.

LINKS

 
 

 
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