@Salbris,
Welcome to the PhilForum, Salbris. Seems like you are disheartened with the lousy logic of other forums, and thereof, lack of proof. I hope you'll find this forum at least a
little better. We all try to stay away from the subjective, or at least explain things clearly, and I think you'll find it to your liking. Anyway, i've got to finish another post so i'll see you around.
-Cordially yours, Leonard.