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Skyla, I think you should just give up. No matter what you say or how you say you are continuously pissing off a whole lot of nurses, especially the ADN nurses.
Great for your hospital to no longer hire new grad ADN nurses. Their loss as these are some of the best nurses I have ever worked with.
Oh and I started my career in a MAGNET certified hospital - we were just RECERTIFIED last year - and the majority of our nurses are ADN so forget saying that BSN nurses will allow MAGNET certification.
Just give up you will not win or convince any one of us that we're wrong. And none of us are ashamed of our degrees and we are all about more education. But we think the ADN plays a bigger role in nursing education and tend to put out some pretty damn good nurses. Oh and I do believe the surgeon general had an ADN first. Before a BSN or before he became a doctor.
Oh, and maybe you didn't flat out say the words, but in your comments about unprepared or unqualified - you called every ADN nurse in this country stupid and I don't think any of us will forget or forgive you for that.
Just give up... we all disagree...find another topic to piss people off about
I just have to say something. First of all, I have an ADN. I do wish I had gone right for the BSN. I feel I am a good nurse. I work with a varied group of nurses, ADN and BSN and Masters...I think many of them are good nurses and many are not so good...but some critical thinking skills lacking..those nurses come from all of those educational background.
That being said......I was a 20 year old single mother of a 4 year old...and I needed to get into the work force soon. I was living on $15.00 a month after paying bill, etc. I'm not sure I could have continued that way for 2 more years. Please consider different situations. I have continued my education and will have my BSN in the near future. I think any and all education...reguardless of what kind..is good for everyone. I just don't feel it's essential to be being a good nurse.
Let's all try to be nice to our fellow nurses and maybe we'll have alittle more help throughout the day!!!!
12 years in nursing
Obviously, skyla will never give up her BSN required thoughts - so be it.
However, Skyla has not given any "research" info to back up her stand. Just saying it doesn't make it so. I have been a nurse for 13 years in three different states - none of which required a BSN. Every state and employer encouraged BSN but they also encouraged MSN.
For our original question, getting your feet wet with your ADN is good advice for a simple fact - some new nurses never get off orientation - they just can not face the ultimate responsibility. Why pay for 4 yrs of education when you can not get the experience to use it another way.
Another angle - college is expensive. Most hospitals will pay the ongoing student 80% of the tution and cost to advance their degree after the first year of work - long enough to try it and settle into the responsibility.
My real statement is that no degree will teach anyone to take this kind of responsibility - it has to be there already!! As for the piece meal aspect of going for your BSN - thats what the national accreditation policies for nursing courses are written to do.
Good luck all (and stop eating the young on this site as well as at work)
OKay what if you already have BA in psych. Do you think it is better to build on that and go with BSN or would it be better to get a 2 year degree and have employer help with school.
I'm still deciding, but very excited to go into nursing I would like to be a Nurse Practioner someday.