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Peter Frouman
P.O. BOX 1652
AUSTIN TX 78767-1652
USA
except for a few short days when they came to the home where we were living after your Mom had left.
At that time, the home was asked to receive them, and we did, just as I’m sure you would have, to help a friend in need.
We personally never had contact with the authorities
Also, we were not at all aware of any abusive acts taking place, referring to the relationship between your brothers and their step father.
Just a question, are you at all interested in hearing what we have to say?
It seems that your mind is so set against us that nothing I can say will open the way to honest dialogue.
You will find a summary of each court resolution in the following link, this should be sufficient proof of our innocence and a total contradiction to the false statements on the websites under our names.
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http://www.cesnur.org/testi/TheFamily/se_thefamily.htm
Can I write you to a personal email address?
I can assure you that I am Paloma, A. Sophia Dow
I would like to communicate with you personally and not with a whole community of people who obviously only want to call me a liar.
You say that the CESNUR site is practically useless
then you are regarding the public authorities as useless and incapable of making correct decisions
all you do is come back at me with your onesided views
It seems to me that you are the one who is not interested in hearing what Peter has said, or in having an honest dialog about the evidence he has presented. You have not addressed a single point in Peter's post to you. Anyone who does research on TFI is familiar with the Cesnur version of the group's legal history in Argentina. We've read it, we've heard it, and the researchers here have provided quite a lot evidence that would call the Cesnur conclusions into question.
When you defend yourself and your husband by labeling the evidence and testimony presented on this website as false, you are, among other things, calling the Frouman children liars. Is that your intention? If so, simply state for the record that the court documents Peter has cited got the dates and facts wrong and that the Frouman children are liars and leave it at that. I will advocate that your statements of self defense be added to the article about you and your husband if (and only IF) you address specific evidence and testimony that has been presented.
From: Paloma Dow <palomadow@[redacted]>
Date: Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:38 AM
Subject: from Paloma
To: [email protected]
Dear Peter,
Greetings once again! I have written you quite a long letter, but I hesitate to send it unless we can come to a simple agreement; can I request that you will only publish or use excerps from it with my previous consent? I ask this to create a mutual ground for trust and respect, and that our motives for further communication may be to sort things out, not to add more
"wood to the fire". My wish to communicate is in part out of respect for your family and for mine as well, seeing as we have been the subject of defamation and lies all these years. I trust your good will and believe me, I come in peace. You can understand that in order to express myself freely, I must have the assurance that there is the will to hear me out without using my words out of context or twisting them to create more negative mindsets. I am not a lawyer, and so my words may be clumsy, but if I have to be overly concerned about how you will use them, then I'll never write at all. I guess what I'm trying to say, is for us both to "put our guns down" and come together around the issues in an impartial manner.
Thank you for your time,
Paloma
From: Peter Frouman <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: from Paloma
To: Paloma Dow <palomadow@[redacted]>
Dear Paloma,
In my reply [posted at
http://xchildrenofgod.xfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=15253#p15253] to
your April 9, 2008 post to the xFamily.org forum, I made my position
clear. To refresh your memory, here is what I wrote:
Quote:
It was your decision to make this discussion public and it seems now
that you are being asked to answer some very simple questions, you now
want it to be private. You are free to write me privately but please
understand that I reserve the right to publish all of your email
messages (or any other correspondence sent in any other way) to me in
their entirety, to publish excerpts from them, to publish summaries of
their contents, to publicly refer to them in any way I deem necessary
and to provide copies of them to any person or entity. I'm not saying
I will do this but only that I may if I think it's necessary.
You will notice that nothing in the above statement could possibly be
interpreted to mean that I would be willing to agree to the
extraordinary secrecy and unprecedented level of control over the
editing process that you request. My position has not changed and
what you are asking for is simply not possible.
However, perhaps it may help if I further explain my position.
In 2005, I (with some assistance from the other editors) wrote and
published a number of articles about (or, in some cases, which merely
referenced) you and your husband. At the same time, I made publicly
available several hundred pages of related court documents and
newspaper and magazine articles as well as some television news
reports.
On April 3, 7 and 9, 2008, you made 3 posts in a public xFamily.org
forum which you addressed to me and made a number of statements about
the information in the articles I wrote and the information found in
the public records (court documents) referenced in those articles.
You basically stated it was all lies. You denied ever having any
"personal contact" with the authorities in Argentina. Because
officials from the Tribunal de Menores de Mercedes and other courts in
the province of Buenos Aires recorded personal contact with you in
official court records, your denial that you ever had any personal
contact with them implies that these court officials are all liars and
committed criminal acts of fraud in creating these documents and
adding them to the official records of the cases. Considering that
most of these officials are also lawyers, the allegations of fraud and
deceit you have publicly made against them are very serious. You had
no problem publicly calling these officials liars as well as publicly
calling the abducted children and the witnesses in the Frouman and
Cavazza cases liars but now that you have been asked some simple
questions and asked to back up your assertions with factual evidence,
you suddenly want everything to be secret and private and to have
complete control over whether any statement you make is used in an
xFamily.org article. That is not fair to anyone and one reason why it
is simply not possible or ethical for me to agree to what you propose.
The only reason for you to write me or any of the xFamily.org editors
is to provide us with your side of the story and factual evidence to
support your position so this information can be included in the
relevant xFamily.org articles so they can be as accurate, complete,
fair and balanced as possible. If there is information you don't want
to be made public, then you simply should not include it in any
correspondence you send me. There is no point in sending me
information which you don't want me to use.
There are certain circumstances under which I will agree to not make
public certain information I receive but your request does not
indicate that any of those circumstances exist. If you have a
specific request regarding specific information that you want kept
confidential or private, that is something I would be willing to
consider.
You mention that you are concerned about your words being used "out of
context" or being "twist[ed] to create more negative mindsets."
Clearly, the only way to resolve such concerns is to publish your
correspondence in its entirety and thus provide our readers the full
context of your words.
Sincerely,
Peter Frouman
From: Sophia Dow <[redacted]@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:40 AM
Subject: Paloma
To: [email protected]
Hello Peter,
Can we resume our conversation that began a few years ago? I would like very much to clarify some things that I think can shed light on the misunderstandings of the past.
Respectfully yours,
Paloma
From: Sophia Dow <[redacted]@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM
Subject: Paloma
To: [email protected]
Dear Peter,
I sent you a short note a few weeks ago. Since I haven't received an answer, I am writing again. A few years have gone by since we last communicated and during that time I have searched through the information you have posted about our involvement in the events of the past that have caused you to target us online. Once again, I would like to open up a space for a mature dialogue because there are some things that perhaps you don't know, or that we can clarify together. My hope is that you will be open to our attempts to set things right.
Best wishes,
Paloma