On the same note, CLAIRE, TFI never seems to want to discuss the atrocities that happened because of forced allegience to your so-called prophet and his demented rantings which you all collected like "jewels" from his sputum. In case you forgot what he said and advocated, you can find quite a list compiled here for your viewing pleasure. I'd like to see any F. member discuss that and discuss the huge amount of teens that were sent off to live with some far off relative or completely on their own, without hardly a dime in their pocket, missing their family, bros and sisters, because they were "problem cases" or not F. material. Hmm? How about it? Let's discuss it, shall we? I know personally of two cases off the top of my head. What Christian organization in their right mind would do that? Still looking for a discussion.

Here's a verse for TFI -- 1Tim. 5:8 - "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." This is my revelation to you. I think we could start with the top, dear Maria herself. And don't forget also - a good tree bears good fruit. Maria's fruit is less than stellar, wouldn't you say? And as far as good works, remember, Jesus said they would be nothing if there wasn't love attached to it. Think 1 Cor. 13. Passing out sandwhiches that were donated to you while you live off the donations you get and use it for a photo op isn't necessarily good works. We could discuss that too. You up for it?

We, the editors, have nothing against adding an article to the site about the good works The Family has done. The purpose of this site is to extensively document The Family without bias. If you or anyone else would like to write up such an article, we'd consider posting it.

Interesting posts here---- I have just discovered the family because of a family friend who has been involved for 35 years. Looking at the website http://www.thefamily.org looked clean and right on-

I was interested to find out about the Founder who is so prominently posted on the web page however in reading some of his writings- I felt sick to my stomach....the antisemitism, the sexual philosphy and sexual predator mentality.....to mention a few. Has David Berg tried to put himself above God by his interpretations of scripture?

I have not really spent much time with people of the organization but the important thing to remember

Who is this organization representing spiritually? They are using the name of Jesus, the bible, and scripture to promote a lifestyle and laws which distort God's word.

It would be better if they had left the word of God out of the picture.... spiritual forces have always tried to use and distort the word of God.

They have been doing it since the beginning when Satan was messing with Adam and Eve in the garden.

I feel sad for all the good people in this organization who are being deceived. It is not about the people but rather the spiritual forces that are holding the whole organization together to continue to confuse, abuse, control and intimidate its members.

From looking at this site and reading the purpose of the site- to exhaustively document the history and testimonies of the Children of God/the Family etc. - It looks pretty fair to me. I don't see any horns drawn on the pictures of David Berg or a pitchfork put in his hand.

The Family ? Good or Bad?? They may do some good works, but it looks like the good works are to lure unsuspecting people into the pit of deception that forms the basis of the organization.

To promote having sex with children is evil. There is not another way to put it. If you give the child a bowl of noodles before he or she is abused, it is still an evil act.

Their website is squeaky clean but putting the organization up to honor David Berg as is shown on http://www.thefamily.org
after he has written so many destructive opinions and suggestions for his followers is witness to who the organization is and who they are serving spiritually.

i don't think this site is biased. i just think that most of the people who comment here don't find a place on Family sites to say what they've got to get off their chests about the family. There is NO place in the family for what we claim/state/question/etc here. if i want to say something nice about the family, i can....and have on this site. i still have family there, and i understand their resons for being there, altho i don't agree with their choices.
if you must take issue with this site, blame the people who wander here. yes, a lot of us are somewhat, or very anti family, or at least don't want to be part of it again and would like to discuss what was once our 100%, but that doesn't mean there aren't places everywhere on this site with fam literature, links, etc. this is a place where you can say what you want. trust me, the day the family gives two sides for real, that'll be the day. you'll find positive stuff or at least HONEST stuff everywhere if you look.

i feel that every XFAMILY has right to say what they feel and voice what they went through, biased or not all they are doing is telling the truth and its up to us (the public) to make our own minds up on wether we belive it to be true or not

thanks for that.

your very welcome cookie. i stand by what isaid i havent just taken what i have as truth i have reseached and still belive that NOTHING that is said by XFAMILY is a lie and they have the right to tell ALL what happened to them and to let US THE PUBLIC make our own mind up i have and its not to join or entertain the family they are not good wholesome people they are IN MY OPNION evil people who pray on the weak,
if any one needs a friend pleas email me at [email protected] always here and have time for all xx

peolpe whp are mebers of THE FAMILY dont even consider emailing me i mean people who are decent, caring, loving they are welcome to email anytime